1 00:01:41,550 --> 00:01:37,640 [Music] 2 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:41,560 this live radio for the masses Atlanta 3 00:01:47,190 --> 00:01:45,250 between July 8 1947 beyond the airport 4 00:01:50,910 --> 00:01:47,200 who has announced are applying this type 5 00:01:54,620 --> 00:01:50,920 of found under now in the VRA the game 6 00:01:57,450 --> 00:01:54,630 is rigged change the game changer I 7 00:02:01,770 --> 00:01:57,460 occasionally think how quickly our 8 00:02:04,410 --> 00:02:01,780 differences worldwide would vanish if we 9 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:04,420 were facing an alien threat from outside 10 00:02:10,180 --> 00:02:05,850 this way 11 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:10,190 [Music] 12 00:02:15,850 --> 00:02:12,890 this is baked and black with your host 13 00:02:19,060 --> 00:02:15,860 ginny church on the game-changer radio 14 00:02:22,850 --> 00:02:19,070 network and a GRA the global radio 15 00:02:31,740 --> 00:02:24,920 I need your help 16 00:02:36,850 --> 00:02:34,170 you listen to fade to black with jimmy 17 00:02:45,610 --> 00:02:36,860 touch on the game change in that one 18 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:45,620 [Music] 19 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:55,110 fade to black 20 00:03:03,709 --> 00:03:00,400 this spoke radio for 21 00:03:09,380 --> 00:03:03,719 [Music] 22 00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:09,390 math says yeah let's do this 23 00:03:12,230 --> 00:03:10,360 [Music] 24 00:03:19,180 --> 00:03:12,240 [Applause] 25 00:03:24,450 --> 00:03:22,210 today it's Tuesday June 30 of 2020 26 00:03:26,740 --> 00:03:24,460 [Music] 27 00:03:33,340 --> 00:03:26,750 182 days into the new year 28 00:03:36,670 --> 00:03:33,350 only 184 days left we're live from a 29 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:36,680 bunker a bunker that is in the middle of 30 00:03:40,060 --> 00:03:38,270 beautiful downtown Burbank California 31 00:03:41,770 --> 00:03:40,070 and I would like to welcome everybody 32 00:03:46,860 --> 00:03:41,780 listening all around the world all 33 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:50,040 either and tither to and fro back and 34 00:03:52,940 --> 00:03:51,730 forth up and down east and west north 35 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:52,950 and south 36 00:03:59,740 --> 00:03:54,290 [Music] 37 00:04:04,660 --> 00:03:59,750 far and near this is fade to black for 38 00:04:06,449 --> 00:04:04,670 kjc are the game changer Network MK GRA 39 00:04:09,729 --> 00:04:06,459 the planets 40 00:04:12,270 --> 00:04:09,739 I'm your Jimmy Church what is cracking 41 00:04:14,710 --> 00:04:12,280 everybody how you doing 42 00:04:18,939 --> 00:04:14,720 what an amazing night we have tonight 43 00:04:24,939 --> 00:04:18,949 Scott Wolter is here he just got back 44 00:04:28,420 --> 00:04:24,949 from Texas today he's on the show 45 00:04:31,750 --> 00:04:28,430 tonight another exclusive event tonight 46 00:04:34,420 --> 00:04:31,760 with Scott Wolter we've got all of the 47 00:04:37,930 --> 00:04:34,430 images that we are going to be posting 48 00:04:39,310 --> 00:04:37,940 up on Twitter to see everything now 49 00:04:42,180 --> 00:04:39,320 welcome to everybody listening all 50 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:42,190 around the world on all of the networks 51 00:04:51,930 --> 00:04:46,970 talk stream live tune in kg re the 52 00:04:55,330 --> 00:04:51,940 planet of course YouTube and and Twitter 53 00:05:00,879 --> 00:04:55,340 Facebook all right everybody that's 54 00:05:04,659 --> 00:05:00,889 listening out there what you yes okay 55 00:05:13,379 --> 00:05:04,669 okay everybody just got a text from 56 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:17,920 I'll read is a text here in a second his 57 00:05:23,290 --> 00:05:20,630 recent discoveries well this is an 58 00:05:26,140 --> 00:05:23,300 exclusive so everybody that is out there 59 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:26,150 whew if you're not watching well wait a 60 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:27,650 minute it doesn't even matter if you're 61 00:05:32,740 --> 00:05:30,410 getting a video feed you're not gonna 62 00:05:34,980 --> 00:05:32,750 get the images so you're gonna want to 63 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:34,990 go to Twitter tonight 64 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:38,870 hashtag f2b go to the sandbox and you 65 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:40,490 will be able to see everything that 66 00:05:45,010 --> 00:05:42,080 we're talking about now I'll give a full 67 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:45,020 description this is radio imagine radio 68 00:05:52,629 --> 00:05:49,840 be for the internet remember those days 69 00:05:55,420 --> 00:05:52,639 when somebody will be talking about some 70 00:06:01,330 --> 00:05:55,430 amazing discovery a book cover a 71 00:06:04,659 --> 00:06:01,340 painting stones sculpture it doesn't 72 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:04,669 matter graphs right video movies UFOs 73 00:06:10,610 --> 00:06:07,600 anything you had to give 74 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:10,620 description and painted in your mind 75 00:06:15,270 --> 00:06:13,150 well we can still do that theater of the 76 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:15,280 mind and I will do that tonight if you 77 00:06:21,870 --> 00:06:17,490 don't have access I will give my best 78 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:21,880 and I'm going to say this so one of the 79 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:23,770 best parts of fade to black I love to 80 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:25,410 learn along with all of you 81 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:29,950 okay now I've seen the images I have no 82 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:32,410 idea about the story behind them and 83 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:35,440 what is on them and what Scott thinks 84 00:06:39,330 --> 00:06:37,450 about them I don't know any of this and 85 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:39,340 we're gonna go through this tonight it 86 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:41,410 is going to be amazing I've seen the 87 00:06:48,900 --> 00:06:46,810 pictures I have no idea it's it's 88 00:06:53,490 --> 00:06:48,910 incredible so all of that tonight the 89 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:53,500 images will be up in our hashtag F to be 90 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:56,050 sandbox feed on Twitter 91 00:07:00,860 --> 00:06:58,690 tomorrow night is Fator night not 92 00:07:03,150 --> 00:07:00,870 Thursday tomorrow night Wednesday is 93 00:07:05,070 --> 00:07:03,160 Fator night and the reason why we 94 00:07:07,170 --> 00:07:05,080 switched things around with Richard 95 00:07:11,010 --> 00:07:07,180 Dolan Richard will be with us on 96 00:07:16,620 --> 00:07:11,020 Thursday is that tomorrow Wednesday July 97 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:16,630 first is Richards birthday yeah so 98 00:07:22,020 --> 00:07:18,130 that's why he's not with us tomorrow 99 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:22,030 night he booked tomorrow night and then 100 00:07:27,030 --> 00:07:24,730 he got in trouble because there's a 101 00:07:28,470 --> 00:07:27,040 party planned so that's uh that's 102 00:07:29,670 --> 00:07:28,480 tomorrow night it's Richards birthday so 103 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:29,680 we're having Fator night tomorrow night 104 00:07:33,870 --> 00:07:32,170 looking forward to that favorite night 105 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:33,880 of the week and then of course Thursday 106 00:07:38,940 --> 00:07:36,730 is Richard Dolan all right you can 107 00:07:40,980 --> 00:07:38,950 follow me right now on twitter @jj 108 00:07:44,910 --> 00:07:40,990 church radio oh I wanted to give you 109 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:44,920 guys a couple of updates Saturday night 110 00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:48,310 I'm over at coast to coast am that's 111 00:07:54,630 --> 00:07:50,800 right I will be hosting coasts on July 112 00:07:58,350 --> 00:07:54,640 4th that's a great night to hang out 113 00:08:01,520 --> 00:07:58,360 with the rest of the nation on July 4th 114 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:01,530 so I'll be doing that this Saturday and 115 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:03,910 then I'm doing coasts throughout the 116 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:07,810 month too as well of July and I've got 117 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:10,810 those dates in already but I'll speak 118 00:08:16,950 --> 00:08:13,930 and announce those later ok but 119 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:16,960 nonetheless Saturday night I will be 120 00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:19,120 over at coast to coast am now follow me 121 00:08:23,529 --> 00:08:20,639 on Twitter at Jay 122 00:08:28,580 --> 00:08:23,539 church radio you can start their hashtag 123 00:08:30,860 --> 00:08:28,590 f2 B is the sandbox hash I give to be 124 00:08:34,459 --> 00:08:30,870 any questions or comments for myself or 125 00:08:39,230 --> 00:08:34,469 Scott tonight post him up in hashtag F 126 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:39,240 to B Q and everybody that uses the 127 00:08:47,230 --> 00:08:42,690 hashtag if to be Q please for me just do 128 00:08:50,210 --> 00:08:47,240 it for me okay just make it a question 129 00:08:54,250 --> 00:08:50,220 don't get a clogged up alright I've got 130 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:54,260 that reserved on my screen for questions 131 00:08:59,630 --> 00:08:57,600 okay whatever you got follow it up with 132 00:09:02,389 --> 00:08:59,640 a question mark 133 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:02,399 that's how questions end and then I'll 134 00:09:06,199 --> 00:09:04,529 know it's a question okay all right 135 00:09:07,970 --> 00:09:06,209 hashtag give to be Q you can email 136 00:09:11,540 --> 00:09:07,980 throughout the show Jimmy at Jimmy 137 00:09:13,250 --> 00:09:11,550 Church radio.com tomorrow night Ronnie 138 00:09:14,660 --> 00:09:13,260 McMullen's gonna be with us we've got a 139 00:09:17,420 --> 00:09:14,670 big announcement 140 00:09:19,189 --> 00:09:17,430 that is going on tomorrow night for 141 00:09:22,009 --> 00:09:19,199 Fator night you're not gonna want to 142 00:09:23,930 --> 00:09:22,019 miss that okay I want you to visit and 143 00:09:28,250 --> 00:09:23,940 get the t.com get your immune system 144 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:28,260 boosted get the tea for the last three 145 00:09:35,210 --> 00:09:32,310 or four years is is what not only has 146 00:09:36,319 --> 00:09:35,220 kept me on the air got me healthy got my 147 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:36,329 family healthy 148 00:09:42,889 --> 00:09:39,649 Rita our kids our family get the 149 00:09:46,699 --> 00:09:42,899 t-dot-com all right free shipping on all 150 00:09:50,449 --> 00:09:46,709 orders over $50 use the promo code fader 151 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:50,459 FA de are also forbidden knowledge TV 152 00:09:54,889 --> 00:09:52,560 Billy Carson's new internet TV network 153 00:09:57,380 --> 00:09:54,899 click on the banners over a Jimmy Church 154 00:10:00,050 --> 00:09:57,390 radio duck radio calm get over there get 155 00:10:04,250 --> 00:10:00,060 registered and you will get a three-day 156 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:04,260 three day trial membership okay all 157 00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:08,850 right what a week Jimmy on the 4th yeah 158 00:10:17,259 --> 00:10:13,920 I know right oh man now we got a busy 159 00:10:26,030 --> 00:10:17,269 month in front of us but the thing is 160 00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:26,040 right we don't have any plans so it 161 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:27,990 matter to you so you'll be hanging out 162 00:10:32,509 --> 00:10:30,000 here on fade to black and you'll be over 163 00:10:33,650 --> 00:10:32,519 at coast to coast and you will be sick 164 00:10:36,290 --> 00:10:33,660 of me by the end of 165 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:36,300 July there you go all right breaking 166 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:38,940 news sorry to bring this to you but 167 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:42,210 writer director actor and producer Carl 168 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:45,570 Reiner left this earth yesterday at the 169 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:49,290 age of 98 directed some of my favorite 170 00:10:56,870 --> 00:10:53,130 films of all time like oh god George 171 00:10:59,060 --> 00:10:56,880 Burns the jerk Steve Martin dead men 172 00:11:03,140 --> 00:10:59,070 don't wear plaid Steve Martin loved that 173 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:03,150 movie the jerk top-10 right the man with 174 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:06,510 two brains another excellent movie and 175 00:11:11,660 --> 00:11:08,640 all of me 176 00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:11,670 he went several Emmys he earned a star 177 00:11:15,980 --> 00:11:13,590 in the Hollywood Walk of Fame it was 178 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:15,990 named a Directors Guild honorary life 179 00:11:22,670 --> 00:11:19,490 member and back in 2000 twenty years ago 180 00:11:26,450 --> 00:11:22,680 he received the Mark Twain prize for 181 00:11:30,980 --> 00:11:26,460 American humor the highest biggest honor 182 00:11:34,970 --> 00:11:30,990 any comedian any funny person can get on 183 00:11:38,690 --> 00:11:34,980 planet earth is the Mark Twain prize so 184 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:38,700 there you go Carl Reiner 98 years you 185 00:11:46,970 --> 00:11:41,010 did good man and he brought us 186 00:11:49,250 --> 00:11:46,980 you brought us Rob think about that 187 00:11:54,410 --> 00:11:49,260 without Carl Reiner there's no Rob 188 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:54,420 Reiner and there is no spinal tap I'm 189 00:11:58,370 --> 00:11:55,110 just saying 190 00:12:01,040 --> 00:11:58,380 alright now this news broke over the 191 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:01,050 weekend and I kind of saved it until 192 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:02,850 today I was gonna talk about this 193 00:12:10,460 --> 00:12:07,170 yesterday pretty incredible a crowd of 194 00:12:13,250 --> 00:12:10,470 people gathered in downtown Olympia 195 00:12:16,220 --> 00:12:13,260 Washington on Saturday in front of a 196 00:12:20,930 --> 00:12:16,230 stage near the Washington State Capitol 197 00:12:25,610 --> 00:12:20,940 there they were there for the March for 198 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:25,620 our rights three rally bringing together 199 00:12:31,790 --> 00:12:28,530 far-right groups to demonstrate against 200 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:31,800 a safety regulations instituted during 201 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:39,690 the Cova 19 pandemic yeah but by the end 202 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:41,370 the event appeared to have been an 203 00:12:46,250 --> 00:12:44,250 elaborate prank that gained widespread 204 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:46,260 internet attention over the weekend 205 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:47,410 because 206 00:12:55,990 --> 00:12:51,770 the mastermind behind it all was Sacha 207 00:12:58,269 --> 00:12:56,000 Baron Cohen video that streamed live 208 00:13:00,519 --> 00:12:58,279 from the event appeared to show a singer 209 00:13:03,210 --> 00:13:00,529 in a red shirt and blue overalls 210 00:13:06,940 --> 00:13:03,220 engaging the crowd in a racist 211 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:06,950 sing-along the song's lyrics referenced 212 00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:11,330 Barack Obama Bill Gates Hillary Clinton 213 00:13:20,050 --> 00:13:15,070 Anthony pouchy and referred to the 214 00:13:22,180 --> 00:13:20,060 coronavirus as the Wu Han flu now 215 00:13:24,250 --> 00:13:22,190 attendees tried to cut off the power you 216 00:13:28,660 --> 00:13:24,260 have to I watched the video by the way 217 00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:28,670 you have to see what happens and there 218 00:13:33,250 --> 00:13:31,520 were both in the audience and when he 219 00:13:36,690 --> 00:13:33,260 watched this and he see the heat 220 00:13:43,329 --> 00:13:36,700 starting to build up there were both 221 00:13:48,370 --> 00:13:43,339 right and left wing both sides were 222 00:13:51,970 --> 00:13:48,380 there man man man the singing log kicks 223 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:51,980 off and and the left is listening well 224 00:13:57,730 --> 00:13:54,250 even the right the right side it's it 225 00:14:04,060 --> 00:13:57,740 but but I gotta say it happened 226 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:04,070 eventually the outrage left reached the 227 00:14:09,550 --> 00:14:07,970 stage see you to the video to go router 228 00:14:13,390 --> 00:14:09,560 side of the stage they're trying to cut 229 00:14:15,699 --> 00:14:13,400 the power security is there they 230 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:15,709 eventually unplugged the microphone I 231 00:14:20,829 --> 00:14:18,160 would repeat some of the lyrics here 232 00:14:23,620 --> 00:14:20,839 pretty funny stuff by the way it was 233 00:14:25,420 --> 00:14:23,630 funny it was racist and everything but 234 00:14:27,910 --> 00:14:25,430 you have to understand what Sasha was 235 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:27,920 doing I can't believe nobody recognized 236 00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:31,250 him he had a beard cowboy hat overalls 237 00:14:35,850 --> 00:14:34,100 this red shirt and he's singing he's got 238 00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:35,860 a bluegrass bands got a banjo player 239 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:39,140 upright bass player guitar player doing 240 00:14:46,780 --> 00:14:40,730 his bluegrass music and he's doing this 241 00:14:52,449 --> 00:14:46,790 sing-along and a half of the crowd bit 242 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:52,459 man they were singing right it was crazy 243 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:54,890 and then the mob chased him off the 244 00:15:00,519 --> 00:14:58,370 stage the band and and Sasha Baron Cohen 245 00:15:02,170 --> 00:15:00,529 I can't believe nobody called 246 00:15:04,210 --> 00:15:02,180 so now Amanda Sacha Baron Cohen 247 00:15:06,369 --> 00:15:04,220 everybody would ever like they jump in 248 00:15:08,170 --> 00:15:06,379 the back of an ambulance the mob chases 249 00:15:12,759 --> 00:15:08,180 the ambulance out the private security 250 00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:12,769 guards jump in cars and split leaves 251 00:15:17,139 --> 00:15:15,680 everybody's standing around like what 252 00:15:20,379 --> 00:15:17,149 just happened 253 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:20,389 the stage was built the the PA system 254 00:15:27,639 --> 00:15:22,970 the banners of life and it was a 255 00:15:31,059 --> 00:15:27,649 complete setup it was pretty incredible 256 00:15:36,309 --> 00:15:31,069 now you can just go search March for 257 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:36,319 your rights 3 click on video and go and 258 00:15:38,619 --> 00:15:37,910 watch that for yourself pretty 259 00:15:46,569 --> 00:15:38,629 incredible 260 00:15:48,730 --> 00:15:46,579 that's all I gotta say he's crazy and he 261 00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:48,740 wrote it out to that song that he sings 262 00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:51,199 a sing-along in the video that I saw 263 00:15:56,530 --> 00:15:55,120 it's like eight minutes man eight 264 00:15:59,619 --> 00:15:56,540 minutes 265 00:16:01,509 --> 00:15:59,629 nearly incited a riot it's pretty crazy 266 00:16:04,329 --> 00:16:01,519 you gotta check it out all right today a 267 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:04,339 New York judge temporarily blocked the 268 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:07,250 publication of a tell-all book written 269 00:16:13,629 --> 00:16:10,610 by Mary Trump president Trump's niece 270 00:16:17,530 --> 00:16:13,639 that Simon & Schuster is set to publish 271 00:16:20,379 --> 00:16:17,540 in July the ruling issued by Judge happy 272 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:20,389 Greenwald of the state of New York State 273 00:16:25,420 --> 00:16:23,209 Supreme Court the state's trial court 274 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:25,430 stated that the book violates a 275 00:16:31,749 --> 00:16:28,160 confidentiality agreement related to the 276 00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:31,759 estate of the president's father Fred 277 00:16:38,499 --> 00:16:35,360 Trump the book was the fourth 278 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:38,509 best-selling book on Amazon on all of 279 00:16:45,129 --> 00:16:41,170 Amazon this afternoon of course 280 00:16:46,449 --> 00:16:45,139 pre-orders right there you go the 281 00:16:48,730 --> 00:16:46,459 disclosure fest 282 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:48,740 event at the historic Los Angeles Park 283 00:16:54,429 --> 00:16:50,569 in downtown Los Angeles is happening on 284 00:16:58,329 --> 00:16:54,439 Saturday October 10th I want you to go 285 00:17:03,699 --> 00:16:58,339 to disclosure fest dot org for not only 286 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:03,709 a map stages II events the yoga the 287 00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:06,770 music the art the mass meditation the 288 00:17:11,380 --> 00:17:08,720 speakers fade to black 289 00:17:14,199 --> 00:17:11,390 everything is there at disclosure fest 290 00:17:16,389 --> 00:17:14,209 org and also we'll see you at the star 291 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:16,399 you oppose an artificial intelligence 292 00:17:21,789 --> 00:17:19,370 conference in Laughlin Nevada November 293 00:17:24,669 --> 00:17:21,799 5th through the 8th at the Aquarius 294 00:17:26,949 --> 00:17:24,679 Hotel and Casino now this year grant 295 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:26,959 Cameron Paul Hynek James Fox alan 296 00:17:32,019 --> 00:17:30,110 stivell Minh City Berg and another dozen 297 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:32,029 great speakers I'm gonna be there Reed 298 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:33,289 is going to be there the fade to black 299 00:17:37,389 --> 00:17:35,210 crews going to be there I'm gonna be 300 00:17:39,549 --> 00:17:37,399 hosting I'm going to be speaking we're 301 00:17:41,740 --> 00:17:39,559 doing sky watches for two nights I'll be 302 00:17:46,029 --> 00:17:41,750 hosting those we will have special 303 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:46,039 guests this is the UFO event of the 304 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:49,130 entire year I want you to come and hang 305 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:52,010 out with this up at Laughlin Nevada 306 00:17:58,930 --> 00:17:55,850 please go to Starworks usa.com right now 307 00:18:00,639 --> 00:17:58,940 for discounted tickets and information 308 00:18:04,930 --> 00:18:00,649 let's get this show cracking happy 309 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:04,940 birthday to today the one and only inve 310 00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:11,330 J Malmsteen today 57 years old he plays 311 00:18:19,180 --> 00:18:15,200 one of those right there that's right 312 00:18:22,690 --> 00:18:19,190 yin yang today 57 years old bass god 313 00:18:26,669 --> 00:18:22,700 stanley clarke today is 69 years old 314 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:26,679 an ex Pantera frontman Phil Anselmo 315 00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:31,730 today is 52 think about it think about 316 00:18:36,399 --> 00:18:34,190 it I'm gonna name a Mentalist these four 317 00:18:40,049 --> 00:18:36,409 albums and you tell me what goes through 318 00:18:42,940 --> 00:18:40,059 your head power metal Cowboys from Hell 319 00:18:48,669 --> 00:18:42,950 Vulgar Display of power and the Great 320 00:18:52,419 --> 00:18:48,679 Southern Trendkill that right there it's 321 00:18:55,210 --> 00:18:52,429 for for the greatest rock albums in the 322 00:18:57,909 --> 00:18:55,220 history of everything right there phil 323 00:19:00,190 --> 00:18:57,919 was the singer our dead guys birthday 324 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:00,200 today is I don't have one on the state 325 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:14,100 oh really I can't forget this breaking 326 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:20,490 news Daniel James out of Australia 327 00:19:25,260 --> 00:19:23,530 journalist filmmaker it's his birthday 328 00:19:27,810 --> 00:19:25,270 today too and most people don't know a 329 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:27,820 man with his talent his writing skills 330 00:19:34,860 --> 00:19:31,680 his editing skills his video skills his 331 00:19:35,870 --> 00:19:34,870 documentarian skills dude is only 29 332 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:35,880 years old 333 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:39,010 happy birthday Daniel on this day in 334 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:44,770 history OTD 1974 Soviet dancer Mikhail 335 00:19:49,740 --> 00:19:47,290 Baryshnikov considered one of the 336 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:49,750 world's greatest ballet dancers of all 337 00:19:58,850 --> 00:19:55,050 time defects splits from the USSR 338 00:20:03,360 --> 00:19:58,860 Mikhail choreographed his own defection 339 00:20:08,330 --> 00:20:03,370 after four years of planning Fader fact 340 00:20:12,030 --> 00:20:08,340 in 1941 President was Scott of Haiti 341 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:12,040 declared war on the same day declared 342 00:20:18,980 --> 00:20:14,260 war on Japan Germany Italy Bulgaria 343 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:18,990 Hungary and Romania on that same day 344 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:23,110 only Romania bothered to declare war on 345 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:30,850 Haiti in return that is your fader fact 346 00:20:35,850 --> 00:20:33,610 tonight scout Walter is here got a 347 00:20:37,890 --> 00:20:35,860 breaking breaking discovery that's gonna 348 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:37,900 happen exclusively right here on fade to 349 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:40,330 black we've got a bunch of images that 350 00:20:44,010 --> 00:20:42,310 we're gonna be presenting you need to 351 00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:44,020 get over to Twitter follow me on twitter 352 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:49,600 @jj radio hashtag f2b q that's right 353 00:20:54,060 --> 00:20:51,760 forsaken our tech guys birthday today is 354 00:20:57,750 --> 00:20:54,070 I don't have one I actually put that in 355 00:21:01,650 --> 00:20:57,760 my notes yeah I actually put that in my 356 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:01,660 notes all right let me hit this River 357 00:21:13,450 --> 00:21:10,240 River moon coffee dot-com the promo 358 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:13,460 codes you need just head over for Amazon 359 00:21:17,770 --> 00:21:16,010 or the website for River moon coffee are 360 00:21:24,190 --> 00:21:17,780 right there get your discounts and free 361 00:21:26,020 --> 00:21:24,200 shipping all that stuff alright the 362 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:26,030 first three hundred and seventy nine 363 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:29,210 thousand years of the Big Bang were the 364 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:34,610 most interesting and if you didn't get 365 00:21:45,460 --> 00:21:39,770 hooked up during that time you would be 366 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:45,470 single forever and forever is a long 367 00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:49,520 time now without boring you and bogging 368 00:21:52,930 --> 00:21:51,200 you down with the physics and the 369 00:21:57,090 --> 00:21:52,940 science and the math and the chemistry 370 00:22:02,770 --> 00:21:57,100 I'll start to explain things like this 371 00:22:11,290 --> 00:22:02,780 imagine the Big Bang as a giant singles 372 00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:11,300 bar let's call it the big bang bar or 373 00:22:20,140 --> 00:22:17,380 the bar Big Bang either one at this bar 374 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:20,150 you have just three hundred and seventy 375 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:23,710 nine thousand years to meet up hook up 376 00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:28,130 with another particle that's right and 377 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:29,900 at the end of the nights or in this case 378 00:22:35,130 --> 00:22:32,090 three hundred and seventy nine thousand 379 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:35,140 years the house lights come on and 380 00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:42,610 everybody has to go home single or not 381 00:22:49,570 --> 00:22:47,360 you see all of the protons the electrons 382 00:22:53,050 --> 00:22:49,580 and well the other stuff that didn't 383 00:22:58,690 --> 00:22:53,060 hook up or left to travel the universe 384 00:23:02,230 --> 00:22:58,700 and the space beyond alone forever so 385 00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:02,240 let's say that you're one of these 386 00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:05,600 protons that got kicked out of the Big 387 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:08,720 Bang bar and you are just blasting out 388 00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:12,730 into the vast blackness of space of 389 00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:18,310 everything our universe right 390 00:23:27,570 --> 00:23:21,600 everything that was just created is 391 00:23:29,550 --> 00:23:27,580 happening over your shoulder that's 392 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:29,560 right 393 00:23:36,090 --> 00:23:33,610 turn around take a look atoms have been 394 00:23:38,910 --> 00:23:36,100 created fundamental particles matter 395 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:38,920 antimatter gravity has taken over and 396 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:43,710 things are just well being created stars 397 00:23:55,970 --> 00:23:50,010 star systems dust and rocks yep 398 00:24:01,260 --> 00:23:55,980 everything that is everything but you 399 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:01,270 you got kicked out of the bar that's 400 00:24:06,180 --> 00:24:04,270 right at this point the odds of you 401 00:24:08,730 --> 00:24:06,190 hooking up with something anything and 402 00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:08,740 not living a life all alone are well 403 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:11,200 they're huge in fact you will be alone 404 00:24:21,150 --> 00:24:17,200 forever do you see the lone proton the 405 00:24:26,910 --> 00:24:21,160 universe the combination it's a big 406 00:24:30,150 --> 00:24:26,920 place but space right everything else in 407 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:30,160 the great beyond is even bigger the 408 00:24:34,710 --> 00:24:32,110 universe is being created behind you 409 00:24:40,590 --> 00:24:34,720 spaces after that and that's where 410 00:24:43,530 --> 00:24:40,600 you're headed into the infinite you the 411 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:43,540 lone proton cruising along will never 412 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:45,730 meet up with something else 413 00:24:50,820 --> 00:24:48,370 you'll never get sucked in by gravity 414 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:50,830 from a star that is attracting dust and 415 00:24:55,380 --> 00:24:53,290 creating its own star system making 416 00:24:58,530 --> 00:24:55,390 chemicals and metals and the fun stuff 417 00:25:02,900 --> 00:24:58,540 that creates life nope all of that is 418 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:02,910 happening behind you it's a lonely life 419 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:04,930 and I know what you're thinking right 420 00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:06,400 now is you're saying to yourself 421 00:25:12,810 --> 00:25:09,630 Rita's saying this right now right now 422 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:12,820 this is cool info Jimmy and it's fun to 423 00:25:17,610 --> 00:25:15,250 think about but what on God's green 424 00:25:22,290 --> 00:25:17,620 earth does this have anything to do with 425 00:25:24,780 --> 00:25:22,300 us it's a great question but actually it 426 00:25:26,820 --> 00:25:24,790 has everything to do with you the 427 00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:26,830 concepts about the size of the universe 428 00:25:31,890 --> 00:25:29,470 and bumping into something else be it a 429 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:31,900 planet an asteroid or another star 430 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:33,850 out there while traveling the stars are 431 00:25:39,810 --> 00:25:36,970 greatly exaggerated by Hollywood and 432 00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:39,820 science fiction novels I'll put it to 433 00:25:45,450 --> 00:25:42,640 you like this you and your team have 434 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:45,460 left the earth for star system ABC and 435 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:50,050 it's Planet d EF now at the same time 436 00:25:57,780 --> 00:25:53,650 another starship and their team have 437 00:26:02,250 --> 00:25:57,790 just left planet D EF and they're headed 438 00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:02,260 to earth now what are the odds of you 439 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:05,679 hitting each other there are no odds it 440 00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:08,050 will never happen what are the odds of 441 00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:11,020 you seeing one another passing each 442 00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:14,830 other by again it'll never happen there 443 00:26:21,690 --> 00:26:17,910 are absolutely no odds of this occurring 444 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:21,700 would you track each each other slow 445 00:26:26,010 --> 00:26:25,090 down and have a meet up maybe talk no 446 00:26:29,460 --> 00:26:26,020 you wouldn't 447 00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:29,470 this would add thousands of years to 448 00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:30,750 your journey 449 00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:33,790 now what about radio contact in the 450 00:26:38,820 --> 00:26:36,880 conversation about planet d EF right 451 00:26:40,770 --> 00:26:38,830 maybe you want to know something well if 452 00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:40,780 you are travelling at half of the speed 453 00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:43,030 of the light this probably wouldn't 454 00:26:48,419 --> 00:26:44,950 happen either there there would be no 455 00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:48,429 FaceTime at these speeds approaching 456 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:51,070 each other at the speed of light or half 457 00:26:55,260 --> 00:26:53,050 of the speed of light now that is the 458 00:26:57,630 --> 00:26:55,270 speed of life it just wouldn't happen in 459 00:27:01,650 --> 00:26:57,640 fact you would also probably have a 460 00:27:05,130 --> 00:27:01,660 Lightyear of distance between you as you 461 00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:05,140 pass each other just imagine trying to 462 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:08,559 track trying to track you can't even 463 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:11,170 point your direct tv dish at a 464 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:14,530 stationary satellite on your own think 465 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:18,490 about this this is how lonely it is out 466 00:27:27,049 --> 00:27:20,890 there in the true vastness of the 467 00:27:29,580 --> 00:27:27,059 universe once you are gone you are alone 468 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:29,590 we have exactly four interstellar 469 00:27:36,090 --> 00:27:32,410 objects out there Pioneer 10 and 11 and 470 00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:36,100 Voyager 1 and 2 all of them are evidence 471 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:38,830 of our earth and who sent them which is 472 00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:42,640 us some have images of humans of DNA our 473 00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:45,040 solar system and even audio recordings 474 00:27:48,110 --> 00:27:45,220 of 475 00:27:51,210 --> 00:27:48,120 our planet will they ever be discovered 476 00:27:53,010 --> 00:27:51,220 probably not but we have to try and it's 477 00:27:55,380 --> 00:27:53,020 better than doing nothing at all and 478 00:27:57,149 --> 00:27:55,390 it's always fun to dream about ET and 479 00:27:59,580 --> 00:27:57,159 another civilization discovering 480 00:28:01,520 --> 00:27:59,590 evidence of us a billion years in the 481 00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:01,530 future after we're long gone 482 00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:04,409 Voyager one's extended mission is 483 00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:07,809 expected to continue until about 2025 484 00:28:13,529 --> 00:28:11,039 when it's radioisotope thermoelectric 485 00:28:15,810 --> 00:28:13,539 generators will no longer supply enough 486 00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:15,820 electric power to operate any of its 487 00:28:22,169 --> 00:28:19,030 scientific instruments in just five 488 00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:22,179 years Voyager 1 will achieve the same 489 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:25,809 status as the lone proton that escaped 490 00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:30,010 the big bang bar totally alone cruising 491 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:34,360 the Stars forever at 38,000 and 26 miles 492 00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:39,490 per hour 325 million miles per year one 493 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:43,390 light-year per 18 thousand years now 494 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:45,370 though it's not heading to anything in 495 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:48,850 particular out there in about 40,000 496 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:51,010 years it will pass within 1.6 497 00:28:57,390 --> 00:28:55,090 light-years of the star Gliese 445 and 498 00:29:00,810 --> 00:28:57,400 in three hundred thousand years it will 499 00:29:07,740 --> 00:29:00,820 pass within one Lightyear of the m3v 500 00:29:11,310 --> 00:29:07,750 star TYC 31 35 - 52 - one so here's the 501 00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:11,320 good news in a thousand years we will 502 00:29:16,350 --> 00:29:13,390 have figured out faster than light 503 00:29:19,049 --> 00:29:16,360 travel by using warp drives and bending 504 00:29:23,070 --> 00:29:19,059 space we will arrive at the planet 505 00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:23,080 orbiting Gliese 445 and have a meet and 506 00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:25,030 greet with a civilization who has 507 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:26,710 already contacted us here on earth 508 00:29:33,450 --> 00:29:30,490 and we will tell them about Voyager 1 509 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:33,460 they will find it and they'll put it in 510 00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:35,890 their museum dedicated to all of us back 511 00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:38,159 here in our beautiful blue planet 512 00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:40,960 Voyager 1 will have achieved its place 513 00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:44,260 in our evolution in that we sent it out 514 00:29:50,130 --> 00:29:46,990 only to go out and find it and show it 515 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:50,140 to someone else in the future pretty 516 00:29:57,180 --> 00:29:54,250 cool right a gift this is much better 517 00:29:58,830 --> 00:29:57,190 than the Hollywood ending - that lonely 518 00:30:01,290 --> 00:29:58,840 proton who got kicked out 519 00:30:03,930 --> 00:30:01,300 the bar BIGBANG who is still dreaming 520 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:03,940 about what could have been the missed 521 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:06,610 opportunities of creating amino acids 522 00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:09,010 and building a brave new world 523 00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:12,310 don't be the single bachelor proton and 524 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:15,760 do something now with your life create 525 00:30:24,270 --> 00:30:19,450 Live Love and laugh and maybe your 526 00:30:26,250 --> 00:30:24,280 picture will be on Voyager three I am 527 00:30:28,590 --> 00:30:26,260 your host 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00:34:24,880 radio calm 599 00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:46,750 [Music] 600 00:34:51,170 --> 00:34:49,320 all right welcome back fade to black I 601 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:51,180 am your host Jimmy Church tonight Scott 602 00:34:55,780 --> 00:34:53,310 Wolter is with this tomorrow night is 603 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:55,790 Fator night 604 00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:57,650 open lines all night long that's 605 00:35:01,450 --> 00:34:59,090 happening tomorrow night not Thursday 606 00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:01,460 Thursday Richard Dolan is gonna be here 607 00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:04,280 tomorrow night is Richards birthday so 608 00:35:09,930 --> 00:35:07,910 we moved Richard over to Thursday night 609 00:35:13,090 --> 00:35:09,940 okay so that's what's going on this week 610 00:35:16,450 --> 00:35:13,100 don't adjust your television sets you're 611 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:16,460 not hearing anything strange Wednesday 612 00:35:21,010 --> 00:35:17,990 night is Fator night this week tonight 613 00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:21,020 Scott Wolter joins us for a discussion 614 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:24,800 about his recent trip to Texas which he 615 00:35:28,210 --> 00:35:27,680 has just returned from right before the 616 00:35:30,970 --> 00:35:28,220 show tonight 617 00:35:34,210 --> 00:35:30,980 and we already knew this in advance 618 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:34,220 because we are time travelers Scott is 619 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:36,530 an author he's the host of America on 620 00:35:40,930 --> 00:35:38,810 earth and has been the president of the 621 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:40,940 American petrographic services since 622 00:35:45,460 --> 00:35:43,610 1990 Scott is responsible for the 623 00:35:47,770 --> 00:35:45,470 independent petrographic analysis 624 00:35:49,870 --> 00:35:47,780 testing laboratory where the Kensington 625 00:35:52,540 --> 00:35:49,880 Runestone was brought for investigation 626 00:35:55,870 --> 00:35:52,550 back in 2000 he has been the principal 627 00:35:57,790 --> 00:35:55,880 photography and more than 5000 628 00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:57,800 investigations throughout the US Canada 629 00:36:02,890 --> 00:36:00,800 and Puerto Rico including the evaluation 630 00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:02,900 of fire damage concrete at the Pentagon 631 00:36:08,590 --> 00:36:05,540 following the attacks of September 11th 632 00:36:11,740 --> 00:36:08,600 2001 his web sites are right there at 633 00:36:14,830 --> 00:36:11,750 Jimmy Church radio.com including Scott 634 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:14,840 Wolter answers at blogspot you've got to 635 00:36:17,770 --> 00:36:16,610 check that out I'd like to welcome back 636 00:36:20,620 --> 00:36:17,780 to fade to black 637 00:36:23,350 --> 00:36:20,630 Scott Wolter Scott good evening man how 638 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:23,360 are you Jimmy I'm doing great 639 00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:25,850 and thank you for having me on I got to 640 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:28,910 tell you literally five minutes ago I 641 00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:30,650 was going through the stones getting 642 00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:32,510 ready and putting pictures up so I can 643 00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:36,710 refer to them as we talk and I made a 644 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:39,230 discovery one of the inscriptions on 645 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:43,370 these stones I thought was something 646 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:46,310 else it turns out it matches another 647 00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:49,130 ancient stone found in another part of 648 00:36:54,130 --> 00:36:50,990 the United States I literally just found 649 00:36:55,630 --> 00:36:54,140 that realized it five minutes ago this 650 00:36:57,790 --> 00:36:55,640 is crazy 651 00:37:00,400 --> 00:36:57,800 yeah and we're gonna be getting a deep 652 00:37:02,430 --> 00:37:00,410 into this tonight Scott and we've got a 653 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:02,440 lot of images that you have sent us 654 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:05,330 again exclusively I want to thank you 655 00:37:12,279 --> 00:37:07,890 for that and and breaking 656 00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:12,289 another story here on fade to black 657 00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:21,650 this is really a lot of fun and you know 658 00:37:26,329 --> 00:37:23,460 what Jimmy all kidding aside I mean 659 00:37:28,099 --> 00:37:26,339 we've done a lot of shows we've done a 660 00:37:30,529 --> 00:37:28,109 lot of stuff and I really appreciate all 661 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:30,539 the support you've given me over the 662 00:37:36,769 --> 00:37:32,460 years and and I consider you a good 663 00:37:39,620 --> 00:37:36,779 friend but you know to to have you be as 664 00:37:43,279 --> 00:37:39,630 excited about these things as I am is is 665 00:37:45,979 --> 00:37:43,289 really fun and you know you're you're on 666 00:37:48,589 --> 00:37:45,989 the cusp and so if I find something cool 667 00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,599 I think it's gonna work with your show I 668 00:37:53,749 --> 00:37:51,119 know you're gonna like it and here we go 669 00:37:55,819 --> 00:37:53,759 again I mean a great new discovery and 670 00:37:58,190 --> 00:37:55,829 it's just a lot of fun to share it with 671 00:38:00,529 --> 00:37:58,200 somebody who can truly appreciate it so 672 00:38:04,279 --> 00:38:00,539 you know I got to tell you man thank you 673 00:38:07,549 --> 00:38:04,289 so much I appreciate it yeah the 674 00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:07,559 pleasure is mine and the honor is mine I 675 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:10,230 want to say this for the audience really 676 00:38:18,589 --> 00:38:16,470 quick last week I called Scott and he 677 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:18,599 knew I mean he knew why I was calling 678 00:38:26,749 --> 00:38:23,430 let's just say that but we that the 679 00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:26,759 beginning of the phone call was about a 680 00:38:32,749 --> 00:38:29,700 minute of shared laughter where we were 681 00:38:36,229 --> 00:38:32,759 and the excitement of what's going on in 682 00:38:38,569 --> 00:38:36,239 it and and I gotta say Scott I don't 683 00:38:43,849 --> 00:38:38,579 know how you do it but the thing is this 684 00:38:45,859 --> 00:38:43,859 you you care about this country you care 685 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:45,869 about loss history you're very 686 00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:48,450 passionate about it and the universe 687 00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:51,900 knows this and the universe pull stuff 688 00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:54,480 in your direction and that's really the 689 00:39:01,120 --> 00:38:58,640 bottom line here you cannot ignore 690 00:39:04,279 --> 00:39:01,130 coincidences you can ignore 691 00:39:07,249 --> 00:39:04,289 synchronicities you can't ignore things 692 00:39:09,799 --> 00:39:07,259 when they reveal themselves and leads 693 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:09,809 you on the breadcrumbs because the only 694 00:39:14,539 --> 00:39:12,089 way you're gonna get to the end is the 695 00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:14,549 work and you put the work in my friend 696 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:17,369 and that is no joke well I appreciate 697 00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:19,010 that I guess 698 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:20,900 you know I heard heard of saying a long 699 00:39:26,830 --> 00:39:23,570 time ago the harder you work the luckier 700 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:26,840 you get and and but you know but 701 00:39:32,050 --> 00:39:29,810 seriously it it also has a lot to do 702 00:39:34,060 --> 00:39:32,060 with getting the word out and you know 703 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:34,070 coming on shows like this and reaching 704 00:39:39,580 --> 00:39:37,250 out to who knows how many people all we 705 00:39:41,290 --> 00:39:39,590 have to do is just reach one person that 706 00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:41,300 listens to what we're talking about and 707 00:39:45,130 --> 00:39:43,430 says you know what I saw something that 708 00:39:47,740 --> 00:39:45,140 might be interesting and someone will 709 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:47,750 get a hold of me so you know it's one 710 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:50,410 thing to work hard but it's also 711 00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:52,730 immensely helpful to have people like 712 00:39:57,490 --> 00:39:54,560 you that support us that help us get the 713 00:40:01,390 --> 00:39:57,500 word out and that makes it makes this a 714 00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:01,400 lot easier let me tell you let me point 715 00:40:06,580 --> 00:40:03,430 something out to everybody 716 00:40:08,980 --> 00:40:06,590 Scott's personality and if you ever get 717 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:08,990 a chance to meet Scott just go up shake 718 00:40:14,890 --> 00:40:12,770 his hand you know and and just mention 719 00:40:18,130 --> 00:40:14,900 the shows in the past and what he's 720 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:18,140 meant but crack a joke get Scott to 721 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:21,050 laugh because you know that that's one 722 00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:22,850 of the things that make you special and 723 00:40:26,890 --> 00:40:24,800 I remember a couple of months ago I just 724 00:40:28,810 --> 00:40:26,900 want to point this out a couple of 725 00:40:31,780 --> 00:40:28,820 months ago you had posted this picture 726 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:31,790 of you next to a stone and there was a 727 00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:33,890 camera in front you were doing a shoot 728 00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:37,820 and you ask everybody to guess what was 729 00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:39,950 you know really cool about this picture 730 00:40:44,590 --> 00:40:42,710 and everybody was passionate about it 731 00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:44,600 you know looking at the picture and 732 00:40:49,660 --> 00:40:46,220 trying to figure out what was going on 733 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:49,670 and I come back with it's the Costco 734 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:52,490 jacket and I got the blue one or 735 00:40:58,660 --> 00:40:55,010 whatever right I just cracked but you 736 00:41:00,850 --> 00:40:58,670 got it right and and it was it was 737 00:41:04,660 --> 00:41:00,860 really funny to see the thread go into 738 00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:04,670 another direction but but I just wanted 739 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:06,740 to point that out that is that is you're 740 00:41:11,730 --> 00:41:09,530 not all serious all the time no no we 741 00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:11,740 like to have a beer now and then and 742 00:41:16,030 --> 00:41:14,510 enjoy life I mean you know it said 743 00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:16,040 there's a time to be serious and there's 744 00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:18,560 a time to have fun and sometimes you 745 00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:20,510 know I get a little spun up and then I 746 00:41:24,610 --> 00:41:22,400 need someone to kind of reel me back in 747 00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:24,620 with a little with a little comment like 748 00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:25,460 that so 749 00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:28,880 look I'm okay hey I'm a big supporter of 750 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:38,720 Kirkland secret's out Scott Shops at 751 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:45,650 Costco so now the there's a lot of 752 00:41:55,060 --> 00:41:50,890 history behind what we are going to 753 00:41:58,720 --> 00:41:55,070 reveal to everybody tonight so I'm going 754 00:42:01,650 --> 00:41:58,730 to sort of hand this off a little bit to 755 00:42:06,460 --> 00:42:01,660 you so you can give us the background of 756 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:06,470 of what we are about to show and discuss 757 00:42:13,810 --> 00:42:10,810 tonight on this broadcast okay 758 00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:13,820 well let me just say that this thing 759 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:17,030 started for me at the conscious life 760 00:42:23,099 --> 00:42:19,609 Expo and I don't even know if you know 761 00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:23,109 that but you know obviously that was a 762 00:42:30,070 --> 00:42:26,480 fantastic conference that you invited me 763 00:42:32,650 --> 00:42:30,080 to that I had never been to before and I 764 00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:32,660 was a little bit you know I wouldn't say 765 00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:34,910 concern but I was a little curious about 766 00:42:40,329 --> 00:42:37,040 whether or not you know whether or not I 767 00:42:42,910 --> 00:42:40,339 would fit in to this group and I have to 768 00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:42,920 say I had a wonderful time I met some 769 00:42:47,230 --> 00:42:44,720 amazing people that I'm still in 770 00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,240 communication with but I also met with 771 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:49,520 some people who had contacted me prior 772 00:42:53,260 --> 00:42:51,530 to the conference that said they wanted 773 00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:53,270 to meet me in person and talked to me 774 00:43:00,310 --> 00:42:55,790 about some inscribed stones down in 775 00:43:02,740 --> 00:43:00,320 Texas and hey I'm in let's go inscribed 776 00:43:04,359 --> 00:43:02,750 stones let's let's take a look and I 777 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:04,369 have to be honest you know most of the 778 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:06,770 time when people come to me with stuff 779 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:09,530 it's either something that's can be 780 00:43:13,540 --> 00:43:11,690 explained as a natural phenomena and a 781 00:43:15,820 --> 00:43:13,550 lot of people are disappointed some get 782 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:15,830 pissed but you know I just tell them 783 00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:18,770 this is what it is and and if you want 784 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:20,240 the truth you're going to get it and so 785 00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:22,310 I didn't go in with high expectations 786 00:43:29,650 --> 00:43:26,300 but when this person shared a few photos 787 00:43:31,230 --> 00:43:29,660 with me man I was instantly curious and 788 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:31,240 I said okay you've got my attention 789 00:43:37,830 --> 00:43:35,450 what's the story so he told me that 790 00:43:41,790 --> 00:43:37,840 there was a cache of stones 791 00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:41,800 that were found inside of a cave and I 792 00:43:46,410 --> 00:43:44,260 don't even remember now what the 793 00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:46,420 original story was because the original 794 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:49,150 story that I was told after having gone 795 00:43:55,380 --> 00:43:53,170 down to Texas twice in the last month I 796 00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:55,390 can tell you that the story is not 797 00:44:02,130 --> 00:44:00,160 exactly the way that I was told but in 798 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:02,140 in in any case I think we're now 799 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:03,850 starting to get to the bottom of this 800 00:44:09,020 --> 00:44:05,890 story I don't think we're not to the 801 00:44:10,980 --> 00:44:09,030 bottom of it yet but I think we're on 802 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:10,990 the right path 803 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:13,510 anyway what he told me was there was a 804 00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:15,130 bunch of these stones that were found 805 00:44:20,220 --> 00:44:17,830 inside of a cave and when I looked at 806 00:44:22,890 --> 00:44:20,230 the pictures all I can say is I was 807 00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:22,900 intrigued now after having been down 808 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:27,070 there this story that the story of the 809 00:44:34,530 --> 00:44:30,850 discovery is is one of those wild tales 810 00:44:37,170 --> 00:44:34,540 and the stones are incredible and 811 00:44:39,090 --> 00:44:37,180 probably the most impressive thing if I 812 00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:39,100 if you asked me right now Jim and said 813 00:44:43,530 --> 00:44:41,110 what is it about these stones that 814 00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,540 impresses you the most okay well 815 00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:45,280 obviously is a geologist 816 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:48,880 the geology is is is important and it's 817 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:50,890 the most interesting but everything 818 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:52,890 that's carved on these stones is 819 00:45:00,810 --> 00:44:56,890 weathered they are not fresh cuts they 820 00:45:03,330 --> 00:45:00,820 are weathered in some cases they are the 821 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:03,340 weathering is very advanced now that 822 00:45:07,380 --> 00:45:06,010 gets my attention and of course there's 823 00:45:09,780 --> 00:45:07,390 a whole lot of work that needs to be 824 00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:09,790 done at that point that's what I you 825 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:12,400 know I did the background you know data 826 00:45:17,490 --> 00:45:15,130 collection if you will on my first trip 827 00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:17,500 and then when I went back I took another 828 00:45:23,010 --> 00:45:20,520 look at the stones again armed with the 829 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:23,020 geological knowledge of the rocks makeup 830 00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:25,570 and I wanted to take a look at and 831 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:28,390 actually grade the amount of weathering 832 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:30,370 that each stone had and there were 833 00:45:34,830 --> 00:45:32,890 reasons for looking at not just the 834 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:34,840 weathering on one side but some of these 835 00:45:42,090 --> 00:45:37,770 stones are carved on both sides and 836 00:45:43,590 --> 00:45:42,100 depending on what the culture was there 837 00:45:45,210 --> 00:45:43,600 could be a difference in the weathering 838 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:45,220 and I'll explain that as we get into the 839 00:45:49,290 --> 00:45:47,410 show a little bit further but I mean 840 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:49,300 there's just so many cool tange 841 00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:53,170 that have suddenly developed with this 842 00:45:57,060 --> 00:45:55,390 story now some people have asked me and 843 00:45:59,490 --> 00:45:57,070 said why did you go down there so 844 00:46:01,860 --> 00:45:59,500 quickly twice within a month and I drove 845 00:46:04,530 --> 00:46:01,870 down to Texas people might recall that 846 00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:04,540 there is a pen demet going on right now 847 00:46:10,590 --> 00:46:07,630 and I went into the the jaws of the 848 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:10,600 beast out in Texas as far as Cole did 849 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:13,570 this past week but it was worth it I 850 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:15,250 mean I really wasn't around a lot of 851 00:46:20,450 --> 00:46:18,160 people so I wasn't that concern but the 852 00:46:24,690 --> 00:46:20,460 main reason that I did all this work 853 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:24,700 within such a short time frame you know 854 00:46:30,210 --> 00:46:27,130 in the middle of a pandemic is because 855 00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:30,220 one of the key guys in this story has 856 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:33,760 stage four cancer and he's not going to 857 00:46:39,390 --> 00:46:36,250 be with us for long so I wanted to be 858 00:46:41,490 --> 00:46:39,400 sure to get his story to make sure that 859 00:46:45,210 --> 00:46:41,500 I got all the facts that I could from 860 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:45,220 him and I have to tell you Jim two days 861 00:46:50,370 --> 00:46:47,290 ago when I sat down and interviewed this 862 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:50,380 this guy when we got done he was sitting 863 00:46:55,710 --> 00:46:52,450 with his son who has been very 864 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:55,720 protective and I said I I always asked 865 00:46:59,940 --> 00:46:57,490 him I said house house Jim doing how's 866 00:47:03,480 --> 00:46:59,950 your dad doing he said Scott he said 867 00:47:05,310 --> 00:47:03,490 he's living for this he wants to be here 868 00:47:07,290 --> 00:47:05,320 he wants to help you he wants to answer 869 00:47:08,910 --> 00:47:07,300 all your questions he wants you to get 870 00:47:11,310 --> 00:47:08,920 to the bottom of this mystery that he's 871 00:47:14,690 --> 00:47:11,320 been working on since the first time he 872 00:47:18,030 --> 00:47:14,700 saw the inscriptions outside the cave in 873 00:47:19,050 --> 00:47:18,040 1968 and when I got done with that 874 00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:19,060 interview Jim 875 00:47:23,310 --> 00:47:20,800 there was probably a half dozen people 876 00:47:29,010 --> 00:47:23,320 there there wasn't a dry eye in the 877 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:29,020 house now let's let's let's discuss some 878 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:31,650 specifics here really quick because 879 00:47:37,710 --> 00:47:35,290 these questions are gonna pop up with 880 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:37,720 with everybody in the audience so let's 881 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:39,850 get some things out of the way yeah you 882 00:47:48,810 --> 00:47:43,930 just said that the discovery of the cave 883 00:47:50,970 --> 00:47:48,820 was 1968 how many of these stones were 884 00:47:53,660 --> 00:47:50,980 discovered were they all discovered at 885 00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:53,670 the same time and how many were there 886 00:48:00,750 --> 00:47:58,690 okay well the story's a little 887 00:48:01,410 --> 00:48:00,760 complicated and I just want to I want to 888 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:01,420 prep 889 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:03,490 everything that I'm going to say by 890 00:48:08,460 --> 00:48:05,650 saying two things one is I want to 891 00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:08,470 protect the site I want to protect the 892 00:48:15,299 --> 00:48:12,240 people that are involved here you know I 893 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:15,309 know how people are and and you know 894 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:16,960 most people are just curious and they 895 00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:19,210 want to see things but all it takes is 896 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:22,240 one person to cause a problem and so I'm 897 00:48:26,670 --> 00:48:24,490 going to be very protective of specifics 898 00:48:30,210 --> 00:48:26,680 okay and again of the people because 899 00:48:32,099 --> 00:48:30,220 especially right now that family you 900 00:48:34,650 --> 00:48:32,109 know they need they need to have their 901 00:48:36,539 --> 00:48:34,660 space so I don't want anybody you know 902 00:48:38,970 --> 00:48:36,549 bothering them right now but eventually 903 00:48:45,299 --> 00:48:38,980 you know all that stuff will come out 904 00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,309 now Jim was fishing along a creek and 905 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:47,200 it's kind of you know what do you call a 906 00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:49,930 stream something that's not quite a 907 00:48:56,430 --> 00:48:52,990 river but it's bigger than a creek a 908 00:49:00,059 --> 00:48:56,440 small you know a small River is what it 909 00:49:01,950 --> 00:49:00,069 is and there's he was fishing on one 910 00:49:04,020 --> 00:49:01,960 side he looked across the river and 911 00:49:06,180 --> 00:49:04,030 there was a cliff face there and he 912 00:49:09,839 --> 00:49:06,190 noticed that there were some carvings on 913 00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:09,849 the cliff face this was in 1968 and he 914 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:11,440 said he went over there and he poked 915 00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:13,930 around a little bit and found some more 916 00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,089 carvings but he didn't find anything at 917 00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:18,400 the time well he was a young man at the 918 00:49:22,589 --> 00:49:21,040 time and you know he said life got in 919 00:49:27,420 --> 00:49:22,599 the way and he got busy and he kind of 920 00:49:30,030 --> 00:49:27,430 forgot about it until about 2000 when he 921 00:49:32,730 --> 00:49:30,040 and two other friends were poking around 922 00:49:35,130 --> 00:49:32,740 the area and they discovered the case 923 00:49:37,980 --> 00:49:35,140 actually what they discovered is one of 924 00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:37,990 the stones had actually partially was 925 00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:41,280 partially sticking out of the ground and 926 00:49:48,690 --> 00:49:45,160 I've got a beautiful video of one of the 927 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:48,700 guys that was with him and his name is 928 00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:52,450 Jim - he goes by James but he described 929 00:49:58,740 --> 00:49:55,569 to me he said Scott he said carved on 930 00:50:02,130 --> 00:49:58,750 this stone was the face of an angel with 931 00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:02,140 wings and its mouth was open and it 932 00:50:07,049 --> 00:50:04,720 looked like it was singing and when he 933 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:07,059 described that I knew exactly what stone 934 00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:08,650 he was talking about because I had 935 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:12,160 already seen that batch of stones 936 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:16,210 now and actually two days ago when I 937 00:50:23,070 --> 00:50:21,010 visited with James he gave me a DHA VHS 938 00:50:25,110 --> 00:50:23,080 tape which I have not even looked at yet 939 00:50:28,020 --> 00:50:25,120 I'm gonna get it converted to digital 940 00:50:30,090 --> 00:50:28,030 here this this next well later this week 941 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:30,100 and I'm gonna watch this hour and a half 942 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:33,490 tape and he says there is video of them 943 00:50:40,290 --> 00:50:36,010 digging the stones out of the cave I 944 00:50:42,510 --> 00:50:40,300 cannot wait to watch that and and so I 945 00:50:46,260 --> 00:50:42,520 so I'll see that but what he described 946 00:50:48,030 --> 00:50:46,270 was the they found this stone and then 947 00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:48,040 they pulled away the dirt and they 948 00:50:52,610 --> 00:50:50,140 realized that there was there was a 949 00:50:56,430 --> 00:50:52,620 shallow cave that probably went in about 950 00:50:59,460 --> 00:50:56,440 maybe five six feet it's probably I 951 00:51:02,460 --> 00:50:59,470 would estimate at that time probably six 952 00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:02,470 to seven feet tall and these things were 953 00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:07,110 stacked up like bricks or like plates 954 00:51:12,810 --> 00:51:10,630 inside the cave and he described that 955 00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:12,820 they were there was some type of a 956 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:16,240 material that was spread on them and and 957 00:51:22,850 --> 00:51:19,090 they described it as mortar well it's 958 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:22,860 not mortar in fact that material is a 959 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:27,010 it's a mica with a slight iron oxide in 960 00:51:32,190 --> 00:51:29,170 it but the color that it makes with this 961 00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:32,200 muscovite mica is this beautiful powder 962 00:51:38,970 --> 00:51:36,580 blue color and I think that these things 963 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:38,980 were covered because I would say at 964 00:51:44,130 --> 00:51:41,290 least half the stone still have some of 965 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:44,140 that blue clay on top of them that's in 966 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:46,330 the grooves and even on the surface and 967 00:51:51,570 --> 00:51:48,610 I don't know if they covered them up to 968 00:51:54,420 --> 00:51:51,580 protect them if they put this wash on as 969 00:51:56,490 --> 00:51:54,430 part of a ritual and to protect it I 970 00:51:58,890 --> 00:51:56,500 just don't know I mean this is one of 971 00:52:00,570 --> 00:51:58,900 the question marks that we have but he 972 00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:00,580 thought it was a mortar and I said no 973 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:03,070 it's not a binder this is something that 974 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:06,250 just was apparently to protect them or 975 00:52:11,340 --> 00:52:09,130 to bless them I have no idea but they 976 00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:11,350 they were stacked inside this cave just 977 00:52:17,660 --> 00:52:13,510 like books except they were stacked 978 00:52:21,710 --> 00:52:17,670 vertically instead of horizontally the 979 00:52:24,130 --> 00:52:21,720 okay before we get to the break let's 980 00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:24,140 discuss weathering for a second 981 00:52:31,099 --> 00:52:28,609 and that you when you look at something 982 00:52:33,890 --> 00:52:31,109 there are certain things that I know in 983 00:52:38,809 --> 00:52:33,900 life where I know when I look at it 984 00:52:41,089 --> 00:52:38,819 immediately like a guitar I know I know 985 00:52:42,859 --> 00:52:41,099 I know what I'm looking for I know if 986 00:52:45,410 --> 00:52:42,869 it's real I know if it's not I know if 987 00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:45,420 it's old I know this I if it's made in 988 00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:47,849 the United States or not with the pig I 989 00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,880 know immediately because it's what I do 990 00:52:54,620 --> 00:52:52,559 or microphones 991 00:52:56,690 --> 00:52:54,630 nobody knows microphones better than I 992 00:52:56,690 --> 00:52:56,700 did 993 00:53:03,710 --> 00:53:00,609 right right imagine that for a second 994 00:53:08,089 --> 00:53:03,720 well I know peanut butter pretty well so 995 00:53:09,979 --> 00:53:08,099 now when I look at these stones and 996 00:53:13,999 --> 00:53:09,989 we'll get the images up here in a second 997 00:53:18,380 --> 00:53:14,009 everybody can relax on that even to my 998 00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:18,390 eye Scott this looks like this looks 999 00:53:25,509 --> 00:53:22,710 freaking old yeah with your eyes did you 1000 00:53:28,370 --> 00:53:25,519 what immediately went through your head 1001 00:53:31,279 --> 00:53:28,380 well like I said even in the pictures 1002 00:53:32,839 --> 00:53:31,289 before I saw any of the stones I was 1003 00:53:35,329 --> 00:53:32,849 very intrigued there was just something 1004 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:35,339 about them and I and when you look at 1005 00:53:40,009 --> 00:53:37,650 these pictures you know any time you 1006 00:53:41,989 --> 00:53:40,019 know I look at an artifact or I look at 1007 00:53:45,289 --> 00:53:41,999 an inscription or something that's 1008 00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:45,299 carved on Stone the first thing I do is 1009 00:53:49,569 --> 00:53:48,180 okay what rock I visit okay then I kind 1010 00:53:53,269 --> 00:53:49,579 of have an idea of what I should expect 1011 00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,279 well this is a Sam stone and of course 1012 00:53:56,509 --> 00:53:54,960 there's still a lot of questions because 1013 00:53:59,150 --> 00:53:56,519 you can have Sam stones that are 1014 00:54:01,069 --> 00:53:59,160 metamorphose and her heart is glass and 1015 00:54:03,079 --> 00:54:01,079 you can have some Sam stones you can 1016 00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:03,089 just crumble it in your fingers and 1017 00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:05,819 everything in between it depends on what 1018 00:54:10,609 --> 00:54:08,880 the cementing agent is so I didn't know 1019 00:54:13,729 --> 00:54:10,619 any of that when I first looked at the 1020 00:54:15,859 --> 00:54:13,739 stones but I got down I looked at it 1021 00:54:18,650 --> 00:54:15,869 closely with my hand lens and I could 1022 00:54:20,749 --> 00:54:18,660 definitely see weathering be you know 1023 00:54:22,670 --> 00:54:20,759 the sharp edges of the carvings they 1024 00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:22,680 look pretty sharp in the pictures but 1025 00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:24,660 when you get right down in there and 1026 00:54:28,410 --> 00:54:26,940 look closely you can see they've rounded 1027 00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:28,420 off and some 1028 00:54:34,290 --> 00:54:31,390 more weather than others and that's 1029 00:54:37,980 --> 00:54:34,300 interesting to me because the rock type 1030 00:54:40,050 --> 00:54:37,990 I probably took 30 little chip samples 1031 00:54:42,930 --> 00:54:40,060 off of some of the backs of these 1032 00:54:45,690 --> 00:54:42,940 artifacts and some of the rocks from the 1033 00:54:48,540 --> 00:54:45,700 area where the cave was it's the same 1034 00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:48,550 geology so one of the things I can tell 1035 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:50,710 you is that these slabs that you're 1036 00:54:53,970 --> 00:54:52,930 looking at with the carvings they came 1037 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:53,980 from that area 1038 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:56,290 so they didn't come from the 1039 00:55:00,900 --> 00:54:57,850 Mediterranean they didn't come from 1040 00:55:03,930 --> 00:55:00,910 Europe no they were created here in the 1041 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:03,940 United States in Texas the local rock 1042 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:06,250 here and they carved it and then it 1043 00:55:09,740 --> 00:55:07,930 weathered and then it was put in the 1044 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:09,750 case that I can tell you with certainty 1045 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:13,930 so it wasn't until I took my samples on 1046 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:16,450 the first trip I went back to the lab I 1047 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:18,370 made thin sections I brought they gave 1048 00:55:22,650 --> 00:55:20,290 me a couple of the artifacts and I 1049 00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:22,660 returned them on this other trip and I 1050 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:24,550 looked at him very carefully I made thin 1051 00:55:29,580 --> 00:55:26,890 sections I identified the binder I know 1052 00:55:32,610 --> 00:55:29,590 exactly how hard this rock is now and 1053 00:55:35,490 --> 00:55:32,620 actually if you look at super shaft on 1054 00:55:38,010 --> 00:55:35,500 one side super hard on the other and 1055 00:55:39,390 --> 00:55:38,020 then in the middle kind of in the middle 1056 00:55:41,730 --> 00:55:39,400 of hardness between them 1057 00:55:44,550 --> 00:55:41,740 I would grade these slightly on the 1058 00:55:48,270 --> 00:55:44,560 softer side of average or in the middle 1059 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:48,280 so there it's it's hard sandstone but 1060 00:55:54,270 --> 00:55:51,370 it's easy to carve and will exhibit 1061 00:55:56,310 --> 00:55:54,280 weathering geologically relatively 1062 00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:56,320 quickly so it's not the hardest 1063 00:56:01,230 --> 00:55:58,330 sandstone I've ever seen certainly not 1064 00:56:03,150 --> 00:56:01,240 the softest just a little bit on the 1065 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:03,160 softer side of the middle if that makes 1066 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:05,770 sense but now we're gonna head towards a 1067 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:08,650 break-in in 90 seconds so let me get 1068 00:56:14,670 --> 00:56:11,050 that question out which is probably the 1069 00:56:17,130 --> 00:56:14,680 most important one of the hundreds we're 1070 00:56:25,410 --> 00:56:17,140 going to do tonight we what are we 1071 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:25,420 talking about as far as aging here but 1072 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:27,130 some of the stones have dates on them 1073 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:29,410 okay okay well we'll come back to that 1074 00:56:33,570 --> 00:56:31,450 one of the stones I'm looking at the 1075 00:56:36,510 --> 00:56:33,580 picture here has a menorah 1076 00:56:37,170 --> 00:56:36,520 when did the menorah appear first in 1077 00:56:39,060 --> 00:56:37,180 history 1078 00:56:41,350 --> 00:56:39,070 wait a minute which stone are you 1079 00:56:45,230 --> 00:56:41,360 talking about I haven't seen a menorah 1080 00:56:49,730 --> 00:56:45,240 what which what are you talking about 1081 00:56:55,550 --> 00:56:49,740 sent me the the picture it's so it's on 1082 00:56:58,550 --> 00:56:55,560 the hilt of the or its image all right I 1083 00:57:01,160 --> 00:56:58,560 don't even have the file name here it's 1084 00:57:04,340 --> 00:57:01,170 right at the bottom of the hilt it's a 1085 00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,350 friggin menorah one two three four five 1086 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:06,720 six wait a minute wait a minute wait a 1087 00:57:14,510 --> 00:57:09,450 minute that is that's the Tucson LED 1088 00:57:17,090 --> 00:57:14,520 artifact okay the reason I sent you that 1089 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:17,100 one is because there's there's Hebrew on 1090 00:57:21,620 --> 00:57:19,650 there right it has all indicators and 1091 00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:21,630 some of the stuff a lot of the stones 1092 00:57:26,780 --> 00:57:23,760 that we have in this collection has a 1093 00:57:28,790 --> 00:57:26,790 Hebrew with vowel indicators and I and I 1094 00:57:32,090 --> 00:57:28,800 just and there's a reason why since you 1095 00:57:33,860 --> 00:57:32,100 were - ah see I went through all the 1096 00:57:37,220 --> 00:57:33,870 images everybody I'm just gonna let you 1097 00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:37,230 know this is live radio I did not want 1098 00:57:42,650 --> 00:57:39,510 to discuss any of this with Scott in 1099 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:42,660 advance I want to learn with everybody 1100 00:57:47,810 --> 00:57:45,810 as we're moving along so I see these 1101 00:57:52,910 --> 00:57:47,820 things about an hour ago so you didn't 1102 00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:52,920 have time no as we talked yes okay so 1103 00:57:59,210 --> 00:57:55,680 this menorah is not part of the stones 1104 00:58:01,280 --> 00:57:59,220 no that's one of the two sunlit 1105 00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,290 artifacts but I'll make that connection 1106 00:58:04,730 --> 00:58:02,880 with you here as we go along 1107 00:58:06,500 --> 00:58:04,740 well that but that goes back to my the 1108 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:06,510 point that I was trying to make here and 1109 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:09,570 trying to date this a menorah on these 1110 00:58:15,740 --> 00:58:13,290 stones would we could come up with it 1111 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:15,750 can't be older than right because there 1112 00:58:21,050 --> 00:58:18,450 is a menorah but there isn't a menorah 1113 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:21,060 on these stones clearly though there is 1114 00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:24,570 Hebrew yes and that's why I sent it to 1115 00:58:26,690 --> 00:58:24,960 you 1116 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:26,700 we just haven't had a chance to talk 1117 00:58:31,010 --> 00:58:28,770 about it right right right right okay 1118 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:31,020 we're gonna take a break right here our 1119 00:58:36,650 --> 00:58:32,730 guest tonight Scott Wolter we got a 1120 00:58:39,470 --> 00:58:36,660 breaking story again tonight with Scott 1121 00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:39,480 Scott what picture do you want to lead 1122 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:42,870 with after the break do I want to start 1123 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:47,090 with yes let me see I would say probably 1124 00:58:52,450 --> 00:58:50,130 let's start with the let's start with 1125 00:58:56,140 --> 00:58:52,460 the stone that has the Hebrew writing 1126 00:58:59,320 --> 00:58:56,150 and the Archangel standing on the skull 1127 00:59:01,720 --> 00:58:59,330 and the the woman holding it with red 1128 00:59:03,940 --> 00:59:01,730 red fingernail polish that one I think 1129 00:59:05,859 --> 00:59:03,950 you should be able to find yeah and the 1130 00:59:14,740 --> 00:59:05,869 stone in the background in that picture 1131 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:14,750 is also Scott Wolter you're kidding me 1132 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:15,050 right 1133 00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:18,050 yes tonight Scott Wolter we've got 1134 00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:20,480 another exclusive Scott breaking his 1135 00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:23,119 latest discovery he just got back from 1136 00:59:27,460 --> 00:59:25,760 Texas right before the show he's with us 1137 00:59:30,070 --> 00:59:27,470 live tonight you want to get over to 1138 00:59:33,220 --> 00:59:30,080 Twitter at Jay Church radio hashtag F to 1139 00:59:35,470 --> 00:59:33,230 B is the sandbox the pictures will be 1140 00:59:37,540 --> 00:59:35,480 posted there this is fade to black in 1141 00:59:39,490 --> 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01:02:41,040 with less aches and pains 60 years of 1212 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:43,080 research has gone into chelation and 1213 01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:46,170 angiogram is the result a safe and easy 1214 01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:48,480 way to unblock your veins and arteries 1215 01:02:58,880 --> 01:02:54,240 from buildup that slow circulation now 1216 01:03:00,920 --> 01:02:58,890 to angio prim calm that's ang IO PR I am 1217 01:03:03,590 --> 01:03:00,930 calm or to speak with a trained 1218 01:03:05,660 --> 01:03:03,600 consultant give angio prima call at nine 1219 01:03:07,790 --> 01:03:05,670 fifty four eight eight to seventy two 1220 01:03:18,110 --> 01:03:07,800 twenty one that's nine fifty four eight 1221 01:03:19,970 --> 01:03:18,120 eight to seventy two twenty one this is 1222 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:19,980 Rea sobs here reppin the planet and 1223 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:22,170 you're listening to my good friend Jimmy 1224 01:03:26,510 --> 01:03:23,850 Church fade to black 1225 01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:26,520 on the GameChanger network and the kg 1226 01:03:33,110 --> 01:03:30,960 are a digital broadcast station this is 1227 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:33,120 Toby Kebbell you're listening to Jimmy 1228 01:03:50,349 --> 01:03:48,069 major gray and I'm Ari Gold where the 1229 01:03:53,829 --> 01:03:50,359 honey brothers and you're listening to 1230 01:03:55,150 --> 01:03:53,839 Jimmy Church revolution this is Jimmy 1231 01:03:57,370 --> 01:03:55,160 Church of fade to black and you can 1232 01:04:00,579 --> 01:03:57,380 become an official fader not by just 1233 01:04:02,759 --> 01:04:00,589 going to our membership section at Jimmy 1234 01:04:05,319 --> 01:04:02,769 Church radio.com 1235 01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:05,329 hello this is Serena right kayla from 1236 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:07,609 conscious life expo and you're listening 1237 01:04:12,370 --> 01:04:10,130 to fade to black with Jimmy Church who 1238 01:04:17,130 --> 01:04:12,380 holds the Lucky Pony record for the best 1239 01:04:19,660 --> 01:04:17,140 astrological chart since 1963 true story 1240 01:04:21,249 --> 01:04:19,670 this is Micah Hank's of the gray lien 1241 01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:21,259 report and you're listening to Jimmy 1242 01:04:25,689 --> 01:04:23,599 church on fade to black across the globe 1243 01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:25,699 on the GameChanger radio network and the 1244 01:04:39,950 --> 01:04:28,960 one and only kgr a radio the planet 1245 01:04:51,250 --> 01:04:49,020 [Music] 1246 01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:51,260 welcome back fade to black I'm yours to 1247 01:04:57,099 --> 01:04:53,200 be Church tonight our guest Scott Wolter 1248 01:04:59,500 --> 01:04:57,109 an amazing discovery in Texas and we are 1249 01:05:01,780 --> 01:04:59,510 presenting images now over in Twitter 1250 01:05:04,450 --> 01:05:01,790 you can follow me on Twitter I teach 1251 01:05:07,390 --> 01:05:04,460 radio you can follow Scott on Twitter at 1252 01:05:09,490 --> 01:05:07,400 real Scott Wolter and a little 1253 01:05:12,790 --> 01:05:09,500 programming note for everybody 1254 01:05:15,099 --> 01:05:12,800 tomorrow night is Fator night not 1255 01:05:19,270 --> 01:05:15,109 Thursday Thursday night Richard Dolan 1256 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:19,280 will be here now we've got a big set of 1257 01:05:24,190 --> 01:05:21,290 images that we're going to be presenting 1258 01:05:27,370 --> 01:05:24,200 tonight we've got image number one up 1259 01:05:31,870 --> 01:05:27,380 I've got an enlargement of it here Scott 1260 01:05:33,309 --> 01:05:31,880 on my screen and pretty incredible we'll 1261 01:05:35,020 --> 01:05:33,319 start with what's in the foreground 1262 01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:35,030 we'll discuss what's in the background 1263 01:05:42,370 --> 01:05:41,599 next but the okay obviously this is 1264 01:05:52,059 --> 01:05:42,380 Hebrew 1265 01:05:56,020 --> 01:05:52,069 weeks ago I spent a total of about three 1266 01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:56,030 hours on a zoom call with a retired 1267 01:06:03,130 --> 01:06:00,160 Hebrew scholar from Harvard and 1268 01:06:05,319 --> 01:06:03,140 basically what he said was you know and 1269 01:06:07,300 --> 01:06:05,329 and I know enough to be dangerous and 1270 01:06:10,390 --> 01:06:07,310 obviously Hebrew is read right to left 1271 01:06:12,130 --> 01:06:10,400 and you can see on the upper row and the 1272 01:06:16,930 --> 01:06:12,140 far right you see what looks like a 1273 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:16,940 backwards see character yep and and if 1274 01:06:20,829 --> 01:06:18,530 you look there's a couple of little 1275 01:06:24,130 --> 01:06:20,839 there's a tea and a little line 1276 01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:24,140 underneath it yep those are vowel 1277 01:06:29,740 --> 01:06:27,710 indicators and that's that's really 1278 01:06:31,450 --> 01:06:29,750 important because it helps you to be 1279 01:06:34,569 --> 01:06:31,460 able to say like you said with the 1280 01:06:36,730 --> 01:06:34,579 menorah it can't be you know older than 1281 01:06:39,579 --> 01:06:36,740 this same thing with these all 1282 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:39,589 indicators this according to the Hebrew 1283 01:06:44,740 --> 01:06:42,650 scholar of all indicators came in he 1284 01:06:48,550 --> 01:06:44,750 said sometime between sixth and the 1285 01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:48,560 tenth century so we know this isn't you 1286 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:50,329 know Hebrew that goes back to the time 1287 01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:54,650 of Jesus or beforehand it's not Aramaic 1288 01:07:00,310 --> 01:06:57,890 it's not old Hebrew this is quote modern 1289 01:07:02,170 --> 01:07:00,320 Hebrew but it could be as much as 1290 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:02,180 twelve to fourteen hundred years old in 1291 01:07:06,820 --> 01:07:05,330 this case it's not that old but anyway 1292 01:07:08,380 --> 01:07:06,830 those vowel indicators are very 1293 01:07:10,990 --> 01:07:08,390 important the other thing that's really 1294 01:07:15,010 --> 01:07:11,000 cool is if you go on the top row one two 1295 01:07:17,050 --> 01:07:15,020 three the third character mm-hmm a lot 1296 01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:17,060 of people on when I posted this picture 1297 01:07:21,580 --> 01:07:19,910 said oh my god it's a hook deck well 1298 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:21,590 that's right it kind of sticks out like 1299 01:07:29,170 --> 01:07:24,530 a sore thumb but only because it's you 1300 01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:29,180 posting it it's the Hebrew olive which 1301 01:07:33,550 --> 01:07:31,520 is the first character in the Hebrew 1302 01:07:35,380 --> 01:07:33,560 alphabet which is very interesting 1303 01:07:36,940 --> 01:07:35,390 because there actually is a connection 1304 01:07:39,010 --> 01:07:36,950 between the hook decks and the Hebrew 1305 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:39,020 olive which is something I've talked 1306 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:41,090 about in my books but it's not a hook 1307 01:07:45,820 --> 01:07:43,250 decks in this case it is a Hebrew letter 1308 01:07:49,660 --> 01:07:45,830 now if you keep going so that's three 1309 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:49,670 four five six and there you see what 1310 01:07:54,610 --> 01:07:52,850 looks like a backwards seven and I 1311 01:07:57,370 --> 01:07:54,620 forget what the character is forgive me 1312 01:08:00,730 --> 01:07:57,380 but you see a little slash or a little 1313 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:00,740 dot above it yeah it's actually a short 1314 01:08:05,410 --> 01:08:03,770 line and what the scholar said is that 1315 01:08:09,310 --> 01:08:05,420 when you get to that point when you're 1316 01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:09,320 reading this inscription you start 1317 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:12,310 singing it's it's a key to start singing 1318 01:08:18,970 --> 01:08:15,410 so this isn't something that's just due 1319 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:18,980 to be translated and spoken it's to be 1320 01:08:25,540 --> 01:08:22,130 sung which I found really interesting 1321 01:08:29,260 --> 01:08:25,550 and fascinating in fact so in any case 1322 01:08:30,849 --> 01:08:29,270 and I forget what he said this was but 1323 01:08:33,190 --> 01:08:30,859 here's the thing that's interesting now 1324 01:08:36,130 --> 01:08:33,200 remember we have probably I would say 1325 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:36,140 close to a dozen of the stones that I've 1326 01:08:42,460 --> 01:08:38,930 seen I've seen a total of 41 of these 1327 01:08:45,670 --> 01:08:42,470 stones about a dozen of them have Hebrew 1328 01:08:47,620 --> 01:08:45,680 on them and what we concluded or I 1329 01:08:49,710 --> 01:08:47,630 should say with the scholar concluded 1330 01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:49,720 after we had this discussion and and 1331 01:08:55,150 --> 01:08:52,640 another another scholar was on the line 1332 01:08:57,220 --> 01:08:55,160 there was three of us I was not the 1333 01:08:59,860 --> 01:08:57,230 scholar I was a geologist dealing with 1334 01:09:02,320 --> 01:08:59,870 the scholars but what he concluded was 1335 01:09:04,660 --> 01:09:02,330 this person that carved these 1336 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:04,670 inscriptions or at least the ones that 1337 01:09:08,740 --> 01:09:05,930 we looked at we haven't looked at them 1338 01:09:12,010 --> 01:09:08,750 all yet said that the person didn't even 1339 01:09:12,910 --> 01:09:12,020 use the entire Hebrew alphabet there are 1340 01:09:14,740 --> 01:09:12,920 letters here the 1341 01:09:17,380 --> 01:09:14,750 should have been used that were not used 1342 01:09:19,630 --> 01:09:17,390 so what that told him was this wasn't a 1343 01:09:23,079 --> 01:09:19,640 person who was well-versed in Hebrew 1344 01:09:26,729 --> 01:09:23,089 they knew enough to be able to use the 1345 01:09:29,999 --> 01:09:26,739 letters but the language is not Hebrew 1346 01:09:34,510 --> 01:09:30,009 the language is actually a mixture of 1347 01:09:40,180 --> 01:09:34,520 Spanish and Portuguese but written with 1348 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:40,190 Hebrew letters save what say what so 1349 01:09:45,519 --> 01:09:43,730 very interesting right now this stone 1350 01:09:47,559 --> 01:09:45,529 here is interesting for another reason 1351 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:47,569 because if you go on and I'll get to the 1352 01:09:52,990 --> 01:09:50,330 reason why in a sec okay if you look at 1353 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:53,000 the the Archangel C standing on the 1354 01:10:02,290 --> 01:09:57,290 skull yep one of the things that he said 1355 01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:02,300 to me was never have I ever seen a skull 1356 01:10:13,419 --> 01:10:08,719 on a Hebrew grave slab never so this 1357 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:13,429 combination of Christian symbolism with 1358 01:10:18,729 --> 01:10:16,250 the Archangel and the skull and the 1359 01:10:21,330 --> 01:10:18,739 Hebrew writing that actually turns out 1360 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:21,340 to be in the Spanish and Portuguese 1361 01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:25,489 language what the heck this is this is 1362 01:10:31,030 --> 01:10:27,440 something that at first glance doesn't 1363 01:10:33,310 --> 01:10:31,040 make sense does it now well of course 1364 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:33,320 I'm trying to figure all of this out 1365 01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:35,170 right now we're only on the first image 1366 01:10:49,380 --> 01:10:44,110 the the Portuguese language or Spanish 1367 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:49,390 were these scholars able to translate 1368 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:53,690 what what is being said here well yes 1369 01:10:58,209 --> 01:10:55,730 and I don't have it in front of me I'm 1370 01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:58,219 sorry I didn't I have a notes that I 1371 01:11:01,060 --> 01:10:59,840 took they're in a binder here and I 1372 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:01,070 don't have them in front of me but I 1373 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:04,730 will tell you this after translating as 1374 01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:08,570 best he could and and it wasn't like oh 1375 01:11:13,209 --> 01:11:10,910 yeah this says da da da it wasn't like 1376 01:11:15,729 --> 01:11:13,219 that oh it was very difficult to be able 1377 01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:15,739 to translate this for the reasons I've 1378 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:19,280 stated it's it's using one alphabet and 1379 01:11:23,169 --> 01:11:21,050 writing it a different language than the 1380 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:23,179 alphabet typically would be used for 1381 01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:25,530 sure what he did 1382 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:28,400 includ was that these are all probably 1383 01:11:40,220 --> 01:11:35,010 grave slabs and why the grave slabs of 1384 01:11:42,020 --> 01:11:40,230 who well that's the question so this was 1385 01:11:44,690 --> 01:11:42,030 the the information that we were given 1386 01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:44,700 we've got people who know something 1387 01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:48,000 about Hebrew there's Christian 1388 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:50,400 iconography here and the language 1389 01:11:56,690 --> 01:11:53,130 suggests clearly these people are not 1390 01:12:00,710 --> 01:11:56,700 from well let me go back and talk about 1391 01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:00,720 some of the dates we have dates on these 1392 01:12:07,460 --> 01:12:04,710 stones that range from the oldest date 1393 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:07,470 that we have actually is not on one of 1394 01:12:13,940 --> 01:12:10,290 the stones it's actually on the cave 1395 01:12:20,900 --> 01:12:13,950 wall outside and it's still there I saw 1396 01:12:26,270 --> 01:12:20,910 it that day is 1501 hmm in the middle of 1397 01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:26,280 Texas in the middle of Texas the other 1398 01:12:33,410 --> 01:12:29,520 stones date fifteen or seven fifteen 1399 01:12:35,690 --> 01:12:33,420 eleven fifteen sixteen I believe and 1400 01:12:38,860 --> 01:12:35,700 then there's a couple of stones that are 1401 01:12:43,390 --> 01:12:38,870 dated 1762 1402 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:43,400 two hundred and sixty years later hmm 1403 01:12:49,690 --> 01:12:46,650 what's going on yeah the mystery deepens 1404 01:12:53,690 --> 01:12:49,700 Wow Wow well think about this 1405 01:12:59,630 --> 01:12:53,700 15:01 what was going on at about that 1406 01:13:03,350 --> 01:12:59,640 time in Texas well in in the Gulf region 1407 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:03,360 well some guy named Columbus yes of 1408 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:05,210 course I mean that comes to mind first 1409 01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:10,610 but that that I mean if we look at 1492 1410 01:13:17,930 --> 01:13:14,730 that was nine years maybe eight years 1411 01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:17,940 before depending on the month right 1412 01:13:23,810 --> 01:13:21,510 right and that was in the Caribbean to 1413 01:13:27,770 --> 01:13:23,820 get all the way through the Gulf of 1414 01:13:30,380 --> 01:13:27,780 Mexico into the heart of Texas that's a 1415 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:30,390 whole nother conundrum altogether that 1416 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:34,050 sets hold on a sec Columbus made four 1417 01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:37,050 trips to the Gulf region and he went as 1418 01:13:42,650 --> 01:13:40,710 far on the fourth trip as Panama right I 1419 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:42,660 don't know if you know that I do but he 1420 01:13:48,710 --> 01:13:45,690 did yes and his son was there after he 1421 01:13:51,500 --> 01:13:48,720 was so let's just look but let's go back 1422 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:51,510 now so we got Columbus possibly being in 1423 01:13:56,090 --> 01:13:53,730 in the picture here and I'm not saying 1424 01:14:00,500 --> 01:13:56,100 he is but he could be and I'll tell you 1425 01:14:05,740 --> 01:14:00,510 why because this mixture of Christian 1426 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:05,750 and Jewish iconography and symbolism is 1427 01:14:12,530 --> 01:14:08,730 totally consistent with a group of 1428 01:14:16,460 --> 01:14:12,540 people over in Europe called conversos 1429 01:14:20,060 --> 01:14:16,470 or crypto-jews have you ever heard that 1430 01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:20,070 term before no I have not a crypto-jew 1431 01:14:27,530 --> 01:14:23,520 is somebody who is inwardly in their 1432 01:14:29,180 --> 01:14:27,540 heart Jewish but they live in a Catholic 1433 01:14:32,090 --> 01:14:29,190 country so outwardly 1434 01:14:34,850 --> 01:14:32,100 they are Catholic but their true faith 1435 01:14:37,370 --> 01:14:34,860 is Judaism and so they are called 1436 01:14:41,660 --> 01:14:37,380 crypto-jews because they had to hide 1437 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:41,670 their true ideological beliefs for fear 1438 01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:44,130 of being persecuted which is exactly 1439 01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:48,480 what happened in 1492 right before 1440 01:14:54,020 --> 01:14:51,360 Columbus sailed to the New World 1441 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:54,030 now I'm not sure if you've heard this 1442 01:14:59,840 --> 01:14:56,850 before but many people have speculated 1443 01:15:02,870 --> 01:14:59,850 that Columbus himself was actually 1444 01:15:06,440 --> 01:15:02,880 Jewish that he himself was a crypto Jew 1445 01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:06,450 so if that's what was going on and we 1446 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:08,280 know these people were there in the 1447 01:15:18,140 --> 01:15:13,010 Iberian Peninsula in Spain and Portugal 1448 01:15:22,730 --> 01:15:18,150 I think starting to connect they are and 1449 01:15:24,380 --> 01:15:22,740 if it's not Columbus so certainly okay 1450 01:15:29,390 --> 01:15:24,390 look we're getting ahead of ourselves 1451 01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:29,400 here or maybe I am but so what we're 1452 01:15:36,650 --> 01:15:32,490 suggesting is some crypto-jews could 1453 01:15:41,410 --> 01:15:36,660 have been on Columbus Crew but they 1454 01:15:43,260 --> 01:15:41,420 would have departed the ship and then 1455 01:15:48,050 --> 01:15:43,270 traveled 1456 01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:48,060 explored inland into the middle of Texas 1457 01:15:56,370 --> 01:15:53,280 some of them may have died and they 1458 01:15:57,930 --> 01:15:56,380 created these stones this is for part of 1459 01:16:01,380 --> 01:15:57,940 the stones this isn't for all of the 1460 01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:01,390 stones but we know some of the stones 1461 01:16:07,620 --> 01:16:04,270 have had different imagery but what we 1462 01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:07,630 think could have happened is look if if 1463 01:16:12,990 --> 01:16:10,510 it's true that that Columbus was indeed 1464 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:13,000 a crypto-jew himself he would have been 1465 01:16:18,540 --> 01:16:14,890 sympathetic these would have been his 1466 01:16:20,130 --> 01:16:18,550 people and I think that there are some 1467 01:16:22,050 --> 01:16:20,140 scholars that would argue that that's 1468 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:22,060 exactly what happened and he would have 1469 01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:24,330 you know they would have said look we'll 1470 01:16:29,310 --> 01:16:27,310 travel with you and take our chances in 1471 01:16:30,930 --> 01:16:29,320 the new world because the police stay 1472 01:16:34,380 --> 01:16:30,940 here we know we're going to be burned at 1473 01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:34,390 the stake so we're out of here and you 1474 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:36,640 know if it's true about Columbus he 1475 01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:38,770 certainly would have said hey I'll take 1476 01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:41,740 you there and and you know left them 1477 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:44,080 here and they they took their chances 1478 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:47,650 and apparently or possibly one of these 1479 01:16:53,550 --> 01:16:50,970 groups ended up and formed a community 1480 01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:53,560 lived in this area and actually this 1481 01:17:00,660 --> 01:16:56,110 this area now there are other stones 1482 01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:00,670 which I cannot share at the moment which 1483 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:04,450 are map stones that show Native 1484 01:17:13,530 --> 01:17:08,170 Americans interacting with a community 1485 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:13,540 of people that that that had a had a 1486 01:17:19,170 --> 01:17:16,930 church there so there was an interaction 1487 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:19,180 with the natives this particular site 1488 01:17:25,190 --> 01:17:21,850 would absolutely lend itself we know 1489 01:17:27,780 --> 01:17:25,200 historically that indigenous people 1490 01:17:30,990 --> 01:17:27,790 camped there this was you know 1491 01:17:33,480 --> 01:17:31,000 settlements were there and so it's a 1492 01:17:37,710 --> 01:17:33,490 perfect habitation site but this this 1493 01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:37,720 group formed a community and obviously 1494 01:17:42,260 --> 01:17:39,520 if they stayed there for a long time 1495 01:17:44,940 --> 01:17:42,270 people live people are born they die and 1496 01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:44,950 these could be the gravestones for those 1497 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:48,070 people and it would explain that's the 1498 01:17:55,020 --> 01:17:50,530 only thing that we could come up with 1499 01:17:56,459 --> 01:17:55,030 that explains this very you know 1500 01:17:59,609 --> 01:17:56,469 language there's other 1501 01:18:02,040 --> 01:17:59,619 which students I should tell you and the 1502 01:18:05,209 --> 01:18:02,050 symbolism I mean some of the stuff is 1503 01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:05,219 just it's just not I mean it's it's just 1504 01:18:09,629 --> 01:18:06,400 amazing 1505 01:18:13,020 --> 01:18:09,639 okay let's I'm looking at the clock here 1506 01:18:15,899 --> 01:18:13,030 we've got so much to cover tonight let's 1507 01:18:23,549 --> 01:18:15,909 get the next image which one do you want 1508 01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:23,559 to post next I mean these get really 1509 01:18:32,339 --> 01:18:29,440 really really interesting first this 1510 01:18:36,419 --> 01:18:32,349 first image as great as it is and that 1511 01:18:39,500 --> 01:18:36,429 skull sticks out like a sore thumb it's 1512 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:39,510 actually the most boring image so it's 1513 01:18:46,620 --> 01:18:43,050 okay but do you have it it's really cool 1514 01:18:49,370 --> 01:18:46,630 let's go to let's go to the one where 1515 01:18:54,089 --> 01:18:49,380 you have this what looks like a shaman 1516 01:18:56,009 --> 01:18:54,099 holding a staff with a spiral next to it 1517 01:18:58,410 --> 01:18:56,019 yep let's get that one up next I'm 1518 01:18:59,819 --> 01:18:58,420 looking at it now that one is just 1519 01:19:03,930 --> 01:18:59,829 fantastic 1520 01:19:07,890 --> 01:19:03,940 by the way you know what I call this one 1521 01:19:12,810 --> 01:19:07,900 the bunny rabbit the bunny rabbit can 1522 01:19:16,259 --> 01:19:12,820 you see why okay well no they're not 1523 01:19:18,390 --> 01:19:16,269 they're not but this is the bunny rabbit 1524 01:19:21,629 --> 01:19:18,400 Rita get the bunny rabbit up the one 1525 01:19:24,629 --> 01:19:21,639 with the spiral on the right they Xiamen 1526 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:24,639 holding the is that that's a sheep 1527 01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:27,610 herding staff right well it's it's a 1528 01:19:32,879 --> 01:19:30,880 yeah it's a staff for sure but and it 1529 01:19:35,279 --> 01:19:32,889 looks like a shepherd's crook but it's 1530 01:19:40,049 --> 01:19:35,289 got a little extension on the very top 1531 01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:40,059 end of the of the hook okay we just got 1532 01:19:46,020 --> 01:19:43,440 it up and now before we go to this image 1533 01:19:49,739 --> 01:19:46,030 let's go back to the first image Scott 1534 01:19:52,140 --> 01:19:49,749 you have this Egyptian Stella in the 1535 01:19:55,950 --> 01:19:52,150 background what is that what is that 1536 01:19:59,129 --> 01:19:55,960 that's exactly what that's exactly what 1537 01:20:01,020 --> 01:19:59,139 it sounds like I and I I didn't mean to 1538 01:20:03,689 --> 01:20:01,030 put that in there I forgot that that was 1539 01:20:05,060 --> 01:20:03,699 in the background but on the top you 1540 01:20:08,490 --> 01:20:05,070 have 1541 01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:08,500 it's really an iconic pose that's very 1542 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:11,440 common in Egyptian iconography and if 1543 01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:13,810 you look at it these zoom in you can see 1544 01:20:19,230 --> 01:20:16,030 the head of Horus he's got the beat you 1545 01:20:21,150 --> 01:20:19,240 know the beak of a bird and sitting on 1546 01:20:26,220 --> 01:20:21,160 the throne there and then you have 1547 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:26,230 Anubis you know lying on on top of a of 1548 01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:30,130 a beer there some type of structure with 1549 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:32,110 the flail coming off the top I mean 1550 01:20:39,210 --> 01:20:34,890 these are classic image of Egyptian 1551 01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:39,220 images now you know I mean the Hebrews 1552 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:42,400 came from Egypt right so to have 1553 01:20:49,170 --> 01:20:44,650 Egyptian iconography would not be 1554 01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:49,180 unusual and even back in the late 50s 1555 01:20:56,850 --> 01:20:52,930 early 16th century Egyptian iconography 1556 01:20:59,850 --> 01:20:56,860 and symbolism was was was very popular 1557 01:21:01,110 --> 01:20:59,860 in Europe so you know on one hand you 1558 01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:01,120 look at this and go what the hell is 1559 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:02,560 this doing here but on the other hand 1560 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:05,050 when you sort of realize that these 1561 01:21:10,770 --> 01:21:06,970 people came from Europe they had to have 1562 01:21:15,090 --> 01:21:10,780 come from Europe that you know it [\h__\h] 1563 01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:15,100 ssin symbolism is not that unusual wait 1564 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:16,480 a minute wait a minute wait a minute 1565 01:21:24,740 --> 01:21:20,050 hold on pump the brakes Scott are you 1566 01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:24,750 saying that that stela behind the Hebrew 1567 01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:28,480 Archangel stone it was also found in 1568 01:21:33,300 --> 01:21:31,510 that cave yeah there's several of them 1569 01:21:35,700 --> 01:21:33,310 by the way that's not the only one that 1570 01:21:41,190 --> 01:21:35,710 has Egyptian symbolism and by the way 1571 01:21:43,980 --> 01:21:41,200 our guy with the spiral yes that's an 1572 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:43,990 Egyptian style headdress okay break yes 1573 01:21:52,890 --> 01:21:47,410 it is it is is it's it's it's a pharaoh 1574 01:21:56,810 --> 01:21:52,900 headdress so in fact I think that one 1575 01:22:00,330 --> 01:21:56,820 represents both upper and lower egypt 1576 01:22:04,710 --> 01:22:00,340 right okay that throws a whole caveat 1577 01:22:11,180 --> 01:22:04,720 into this this Egyptian type Stella okay 1578 01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:11,190 let's get back to image number two which 1579 01:22:19,890 --> 01:22:13,510 take us through this what are we looking 1580 01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:19,900 at okay the one with the shaman yes okay 1581 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:23,650 well what I see is I see some type of 1582 01:22:31,530 --> 01:22:28,930 leader religious leader possibly and you 1583 01:22:33,090 --> 01:22:31,540 know I'm not an expert on dress so I you 1584 01:22:36,750 --> 01:22:33,100 know it looks like it's wearing some 1585 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:36,760 type of a robe or tunic with with a 1586 01:22:42,540 --> 01:22:39,730 waistband and then you have this this 1587 01:22:45,540 --> 01:22:42,550 Egyptian style headdress and and 1588 01:22:50,990 --> 01:22:45,550 carrying a staff so this is either some 1589 01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:51,000 type of healer a Vizier in the court of 1590 01:22:57,570 --> 01:22:54,330 of a king or a leader or maybe a leader 1591 01:22:59,580 --> 01:22:57,580 himself or herself who knows I mean 1592 01:23:02,130 --> 01:22:59,590 maybe it's a female I don't want to be 1593 01:23:05,490 --> 01:23:02,140 presumptuous but I also see something 1594 01:23:08,460 --> 01:23:05,500 sticking off the the front of the face a 1595 01:23:10,020 --> 01:23:08,470 cigarette it looks like a nose or 1596 01:23:14,090 --> 01:23:10,030 something maybe a cigarette or survivor 1597 01:23:17,250 --> 01:23:14,100 nose right and then but that spiral is 1598 01:23:21,090 --> 01:23:17,260 amazing you know that's that indicates 1599 01:23:24,030 --> 01:23:21,100 Fibonacci sequence you know the the 1600 01:23:26,910 --> 01:23:24,040 golden ratio the the key to life but 1601 01:23:28,890 --> 01:23:26,920 spirals also represent and I have to say 1602 01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:28,900 after being at the conscious life Expo 1603 01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:31,450 and being on that panel discussion with 1604 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:35,440 you you know some people would say that 1605 01:23:42,090 --> 01:23:38,410 represents a portal represents our 1606 01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:42,100 portal it can also be an indigenous 1607 01:23:50,820 --> 01:23:47,890 medicine wheel you know a path to 1608 01:23:54,660 --> 01:23:50,830 enlightenment that you would walk kind 1609 01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:54,670 of like the labyrinth you know like it's 1610 01:24:03,660 --> 01:24:01,500 not a labyrinth but it's similar it's 1611 01:24:06,710 --> 01:24:03,670 just not the same and it could also 1612 01:24:10,290 --> 01:24:06,720 represent the Milky Way the universe 1613 01:24:13,380 --> 01:24:10,300 spiral galaxy there's a lot of different 1614 01:24:16,710 --> 01:24:13,390 things that are there with that and I 1615 01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:16,720 see something almost North American when 1616 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:19,840 I see that it's that shepherd staff that 1617 01:24:26,180 --> 01:24:21,370 throws me for a loop 1618 01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:26,190 and the Faro veronik I should say yeah 1619 01:24:35,850 --> 01:24:30,490 address here the cigarette or whatever 1620 01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:35,860 that is caught my eye - and the the dots 1621 01:24:39,810 --> 01:24:38,080 that are coming up I would have to see 1622 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:39,820 the stone in person to see if that is 1623 01:24:46,890 --> 01:24:43,210 just weathering or that is intentional 1624 01:24:48,690 --> 01:24:46,900 but now let me say this the two things 1625 01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:48,700 that throw me off here are the shepherd 1626 01:24:56,220 --> 01:24:51,970 staff and the Pharaohs headdress right 1627 01:24:59,370 --> 01:24:56,230 but this looks really old you know what 1628 01:25:02,100 --> 01:24:59,380 I wear my words sure when I first looked 1629 01:25:04,980 --> 01:25:02,110 at this picture it doesn't look that old 1630 01:25:06,570 --> 01:25:04,990 in fact several of the stones when I 1631 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:06,580 first looked at them from a distance 1632 01:25:10,350 --> 01:25:08,290 they go wow that doesn't look like it 1633 01:25:12,330 --> 01:25:10,360 has a lot of weathering but when I got 1634 01:25:13,950 --> 01:25:12,340 in there and looked at it closely there 1635 01:25:16,710 --> 01:25:13,960 was a lot more weathering than I thought 1636 01:25:18,690 --> 01:25:16,720 so and and you know what Jimmy I think 1637 01:25:21,540 --> 01:25:18,700 you were saying it before but when I the 1638 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:21,550 my first impression immediate impression 1639 01:25:27,870 --> 01:25:24,850 was this looked like a Native American 1640 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:27,880 petroglyph at first yes it does it does 1641 01:25:33,180 --> 01:25:31,330 it does look upon closer inspection it 1642 01:25:34,290 --> 01:25:33,190 doesn't look Native American I mean you 1643 01:25:36,420 --> 01:25:34,300 know we talked about the Egyptian 1644 01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:36,430 symbolism all of a sudden it's it's 1645 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:38,170 something different yeah there's 1646 01:25:43,470 --> 01:25:39,610 something going on here it's a 1647 01:25:46,980 --> 01:25:43,480 combination of different things one the 1648 01:25:48,990 --> 01:25:46,990 stick figure just looks so simplistic it 1649 01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:49,000 doesn't look like it's an advanced 1650 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:52,480 artist with talent you know it just 1651 01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:54,880 doesn't look that way but the shepherd 1652 01:26:00,300 --> 01:25:58,000 staff that throws everything way off 1653 01:26:02,940 --> 01:26:00,310 kilter and that takes you into another 1654 01:26:07,620 --> 01:26:02,950 direction and then you've got the the 1655 01:26:12,180 --> 01:26:07,630 Pharaoh headdress yeah and it's it's 1656 01:26:13,890 --> 01:26:12,190 it's interesting and the other thing 1657 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:13,900 keep in mind when you look at these 1658 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:17,290 notice the feet how they're pecked yes 1659 01:26:25,020 --> 01:26:21,730 and the spiral is is a linear type of 1660 01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:25,030 groove and the arms are pecked and you 1661 01:26:30,990 --> 01:26:28,000 know so the style of carving is kind of 1662 01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:31,000 unusual we have both teching and and 1663 01:26:34,770 --> 01:26:33,280 detailed carved lines if you go back and 1664 01:26:37,380 --> 01:26:34,780 look at the Egyptian pea 1665 01:26:39,630 --> 01:26:37,390 with the horse and the Anubis you have 1666 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:39,640 that exact same thing so technically 1667 01:26:46,500 --> 01:26:43,210 that stone is is a base relief carving 1668 01:26:48,710 --> 01:26:46,510 right where the the image itself is 1669 01:26:51,570 --> 01:26:48,720 standing out from the rock and the tree 1670 01:26:55,020 --> 01:26:51,580 the background now there's another thing 1671 01:26:58,860 --> 01:26:55,030 with that is very specific when it comes 1672 01:27:02,220 --> 01:26:58,870 to Egyptian artwork one foot will always 1673 01:27:04,890 --> 01:27:02,230 be overlaid in front of another in other 1674 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:04,900 words you know which one is the leading 1675 01:27:12,690 --> 01:27:07,930 foot right here you're gonna take a 1676 01:27:15,660 --> 01:27:12,700 guess so left right right right 1677 01:27:19,170 --> 01:27:15,670 man that sonorities thank you yes is it 1678 01:27:21,870 --> 01:27:19,180 would be the right foot because you know 1679 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:21,880 you they it's clear what's the right arm 1680 01:27:27,270 --> 01:27:25,210 and the left arm right yes so I guess 1681 01:27:29,340 --> 01:27:27,280 I'm just gonna say that it's probably 1682 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:29,350 right but they could be stepping over 1683 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:33,250 who knows this is an incredible piece it 1684 01:27:44,300 --> 01:27:36,970 there's it there's 1 2 3 1685 01:27:47,850 --> 01:27:44,310 I see 4 cultures here combined yeah 1686 01:27:50,460 --> 01:27:47,860 that's incredible that's incredible 1687 01:27:55,380 --> 01:27:50,470 oh okay I gotta take a break right here 1688 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:55,390 the next image let's go with what the I 1689 01:28:00,330 --> 01:27:57,370 don't even know how to describe this but 1690 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:00,340 it there's definitely an eye at the top 1691 01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:06,970 of it it looks like that stone I just 1692 01:28:12,180 --> 01:28:09,970 brought back man man this is incredible 1693 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:12,190 so you have this at your house I have it 1694 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:14,170 that that picture was sitting inside 1695 01:28:18,900 --> 01:28:16,210 with the wood in the back I just put 1696 01:28:22,170 --> 01:28:18,910 that in there a couple of hours ago okay 1697 01:28:26,850 --> 01:28:22,180 what he's from from one of the guys okay 1698 01:28:29,460 --> 01:28:26,860 well I get this image up next and the 1699 01:28:33,150 --> 01:28:29,470 texts and the things that are going on 1700 01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:33,160 here yeah this is this is incredible 1701 01:28:37,050 --> 01:28:34,930 this is fade to black our guest tonight 1702 01:28:40,410 --> 01:28:37,060 Scott Wolter well that's right Scott is 1703 01:28:42,330 --> 01:28:40,420 here breaking another discovery I am 1704 01:28:44,609 --> 01:28:42,340 arrows Jimmy Church you can follow me on 1705 01:28:47,189 --> 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per 1817 01:35:13,460 --> 01:35:09,990 month and you can help support the show 1818 01:35:15,950 --> 01:35:13,470 now okay we just posted images three and 1819 01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:15,960 four which are two images of the same 1820 01:35:23,660 --> 01:35:20,850 stone now Scott I'm gonna say this at 1821 01:35:27,340 --> 01:35:23,670 first sight when I see this now we're 1822 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:27,350 getting too many levels and shades of 1823 01:35:36,290 --> 01:35:31,770 ridiculous this is just incredible this 1824 01:35:39,530 --> 01:35:36,300 is really a great stone and you know 1825 01:35:42,170 --> 01:35:39,540 when I saw this I recognized it right 1826 01:35:45,620 --> 01:35:42,180 away I mean I have seen this before and 1827 01:35:50,780 --> 01:35:45,630 if you I don't know if you can pull up 1828 01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:50,790 the image that I sent you but there is 1829 01:35:56,060 --> 01:35:53,690 the number Gloria Farley I do 1830 01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:56,070 Gloria Farley I had the pleasure of 1831 01:36:00,350 --> 01:35:57,930 knowing her the last 10 years of her 1832 01:36:02,900 --> 01:36:00,360 life and I went down to Oklahoma to 1833 01:36:05,690 --> 01:36:02,910 visit the Heavener stone and she gave me 1834 01:36:07,310 --> 01:36:05,700 a tour she wasn't able to hike down 1835 01:36:09,770 --> 01:36:07,320 there anymore she was wheelchair bound 1836 01:36:13,700 --> 01:36:09,780 at the time but I'll tell you what she 1837 01:36:15,919 --> 01:36:13,710 had so much energy and and Drive I was 1838 01:36:18,919 --> 01:36:15,929 so impressed by her and we really hit it 1839 01:36:20,419 --> 01:36:18,929 and and were penpals for the last ten 1840 01:36:22,819 --> 01:36:20,429 years of her life in fact when she 1841 01:36:28,429 --> 01:36:22,829 passed about two and a half months later 1842 01:36:30,649 --> 01:36:28,439 I had a knock on the door and the UPS 1843 01:36:33,529 --> 01:36:30,659 guy goes here's this big heavy box be 1844 01:36:36,649 --> 01:36:33,539 careful it's heavy and in there was it 1845 01:36:39,319 --> 01:36:36,659 was full of books that she had left me 1846 01:36:42,830 --> 01:36:39,329 that had anything to do with runes 1847 01:36:44,899 --> 01:36:42,840 carvings and rocks I mean there was 1848 01:36:48,199 --> 01:36:44,909 probably 50 books in there and they were 1849 01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:48,209 all first editions signed by the authors 1850 01:36:54,049 --> 01:36:51,570 that that she knew personally and so I 1851 01:36:58,100 --> 01:36:54,059 have nothing but but praise for her but 1852 01:37:01,669 --> 01:36:58,110 anyway on page 250 of her book in plain 1853 01:37:03,229 --> 01:37:01,679 sight published in 1994 Gloria Farley if 1854 01:37:05,419 --> 01:37:03,239 you haven't seen it you should go look 1855 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:05,429 at it because there are a number of 1856 01:37:11,449 --> 01:37:08,610 things that are in that book carvings 1857 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:11,459 that are part of this collection of 1858 01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:13,050 stones they're not the same stones 1859 01:37:18,890 --> 01:37:15,360 they're different but they're carving 1860 01:37:21,500 --> 01:37:18,900 much the same imagery and this stone is 1861 01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:21,510 one of them okay Rita I'm gonna 1862 01:37:27,169 --> 01:37:24,719 interrupt Rita's in her studio right I 1863 01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:27,179 need you to post the page of the book 1864 01:37:36,259 --> 01:37:30,239 that we were talking about earlier it's 1865 01:37:41,449 --> 01:37:36,269 page number 250 and oh yeah and the 1866 01:37:42,919 --> 01:37:41,459 close-up of the bull from this stone and 1867 01:37:45,770 --> 01:37:42,929 you and I were just talking about it 1868 01:37:48,830 --> 01:37:45,780 read in your studio so in the next tweet 1869 01:37:53,509 --> 01:37:48,840 post up both of those images there so 1870 01:37:55,759 --> 01:37:53,519 yeah we can those for reference you know 1871 01:37:58,250 --> 01:37:55,769 I looked at it very closely I mean I 1872 01:38:01,969 --> 01:37:58,260 literally brought it out of my truck and 1873 01:38:04,399 --> 01:38:01,979 put it in my in my basement about two 1874 01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:04,409 hours ago and I look very carefully I 1875 01:38:09,469 --> 01:38:07,110 had Gloria's book on the floor and I was 1876 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:09,479 looking to see if there were any 1877 01:38:15,020 --> 01:38:11,610 differences and there are differences 1878 01:38:17,239 --> 01:38:15,030 they the two stones are very similar but 1879 01:38:18,770 --> 01:38:17,249 they're not the same and and the first 1880 01:38:20,899 --> 01:38:18,780 thing that's different when you get the 1881 01:38:23,660 --> 01:38:20,909 two pictures up is if you look at the 1882 01:38:26,959 --> 01:38:23,670 very top to apex of what some people 1883 01:38:28,580 --> 01:38:26,969 call this pyramid stone right the one 1884 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:28,590 that I got has an 1885 01:38:33,170 --> 01:38:30,930 yes like the all-seeing eye of God 1886 01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:33,180 looking down and the Rays coming down I 1887 01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:35,850 mean in many ways it reminds me of the 1888 01:38:40,490 --> 01:38:38,850 back of the dollar bill when when he 1889 01:38:42,290 --> 01:38:40,500 said where have you seen this before I 1890 01:38:48,110 --> 01:38:42,300 was gonna say on the back of a dollar 1891 01:38:50,150 --> 01:38:48,120 bill right now this one on page 250 it's 1892 01:38:52,220 --> 01:38:50,160 just a circle that has been pecked out 1893 01:38:54,980 --> 01:38:52,230 but there's no it's not in the in the 1894 01:38:56,150 --> 01:38:54,990 shape of an eye no I think it's I think 1895 01:38:58,610 --> 01:38:56,160 it's different 1896 01:39:00,590 --> 01:38:58,620 that may be subtle but there's other 1897 01:39:02,030 --> 01:39:00,600 differences too but there's a lot of 1898 01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:02,040 similarities there's a lot of 1899 01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:04,290 similarities like the dashes that are 1900 01:39:09,860 --> 01:39:06,810 coming down but that looks like the Sun 1901 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:09,870 on page 250 and that's the Rays of the 1902 01:39:16,100 --> 01:39:12,810 Sun yeah right and you know the Sun is 1903 01:39:18,050 --> 01:39:16,110 often depicted as being deity or God the 1904 01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:18,060 all-seeing eye I mean it kind of 1905 01:39:24,290 --> 01:39:21,090 represents the same thing right so let's 1906 01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:24,300 go back to the stone itself how big is 1907 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:29,850 this stone you know what that's there's 1908 01:39:35,870 --> 01:39:31,890 nothing there for scale I apologize for 1909 01:39:38,900 --> 01:39:35,880 that I would say it's about 24 inches 1910 01:39:41,450 --> 01:39:38,910 wide probably you know it's angled there 1911 01:39:45,410 --> 01:39:41,460 anywhere from about 16 inches on the 1912 01:39:48,410 --> 01:39:45,420 right to about 20 22 inches on the left 1913 01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:48,420 side and but it's thick it's about for 1914 01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:50,400 almost four to five inches thick and 1915 01:39:59,170 --> 01:39:52,970 weighs about 120 pounds incredible 1916 01:40:01,820 --> 01:39:59,180 incredible now this feels Egyptian to me 1917 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:01,830 for a lot of different reasons but the 1918 01:40:13,010 --> 01:40:05,810 hieroglyphs looked like a mix of things 1919 01:40:16,580 --> 01:40:13,020 as well and I also see in the one 1920 01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:16,590 there's one two three four five six rays 1921 01:40:26,290 --> 01:40:20,810 okay so the third ray from the left 1922 01:40:31,310 --> 01:40:26,300 about halfway down almost I see a turtle 1923 01:40:33,980 --> 01:40:31,320 yes yeah I see a turtle too and below 1924 01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:33,990 that is an X yep below that looks like a 1925 01:40:39,770 --> 01:40:37,110 Christian style cross and directly below 1926 01:40:41,020 --> 01:40:39,780 that looks like a backwards capital P 1927 01:40:43,630 --> 01:40:41,030 with a dot in it 1928 01:40:47,710 --> 01:40:43,640 yep and then when you see the turtle if 1929 01:40:51,370 --> 01:40:47,720 you go up there's sort of a snake s 1930 01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:51,380 shape a bit snake maybe a snake and then 1931 01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:55,130 you have like a half circle or something 1932 01:41:01,180 --> 01:40:57,530 that's carved and then what looks like 1933 01:41:03,550 --> 01:41:01,190 an ankh above that a non-core raw symbol 1934 01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:03,560 yep yeah and then you have what looks 1935 01:41:08,410 --> 01:41:06,170 like you know the three nails referring 1936 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:08,420 to Jesus right yeah that's what that's 1937 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:10,610 what it looks like to me do you see 1938 01:41:17,620 --> 01:41:14,330 those yes zoom in yes and now before we 1939 01:41:23,230 --> 01:41:17,630 get too far ahead of ourselves 1940 01:41:28,060 --> 01:41:23,240 the in columns of on the left the two 1941 01:41:32,950 --> 01:41:28,070 columns have dashes that go horizontal 1942 01:41:36,510 --> 01:41:32,960 and vertical in two rows and then the 1943 01:41:40,870 --> 01:41:36,520 middle you have two rows but they're not 1944 01:41:44,410 --> 01:41:40,880 consistent the dashes which are 1945 01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:44,420 horizontal and then the far two columns 1946 01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:48,110 have dashes that are vertical one but 1947 01:41:54,190 --> 01:41:50,930 the column on the end on the far right 1948 01:41:58,800 --> 01:41:54,200 Scott doesn't have a bottom and the 1949 01:42:01,390 --> 01:41:58,810 dashes continue outside of the Rays 1950 01:42:03,550 --> 01:42:01,400 outside of what would be the bottom of 1951 01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:03,560 the other way you could look at this is 1952 01:42:08,260 --> 01:42:06,290 like a teepee right and you've got the 1953 01:42:12,130 --> 01:42:08,270 edge the bottom edge of the teepee on 1954 01:42:15,610 --> 01:42:12,140 the force closed sections yes the outer 1955 01:42:18,370 --> 01:42:15,620 sections on both sides on both the outer 1956 01:42:20,860 --> 01:42:18,380 sides are open at the bottom yeah very 1957 01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:20,870 interesting very okay now but back to 1958 01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:25,250 the dashes the two outside columns we're 1959 01:42:32,050 --> 01:42:27,770 going to come back to that that middle 1960 01:42:34,410 --> 01:42:32,060 column right one two three four five six 1961 01:42:39,790 --> 01:42:34,420 okay so column number four from the left 1962 01:42:42,670 --> 01:42:39,800 yeah yeah that that is that is that is a 1963 01:42:46,780 --> 01:42:42,680 number system telling us something well 1964 01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:46,790 or it's oakum which is ancient celtic 1965 01:42:52,870 --> 01:42:48,650 script I'm not saying that's what it is 1966 01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:52,880 but that's what it could be and an oakum 1967 01:42:58,510 --> 01:42:54,410 script is a series 1968 01:43:01,480 --> 01:42:58,520 of dashes like that lines now I'm 1969 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:01,490 certainly not an expert on Odom so I'm 1970 01:43:07,780 --> 01:43:04,850 you know I'm but i but I know people who 1971 01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:07,790 are and sometimes the lines will be 1972 01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:10,610 angled sometimes they'll have X's with 1973 01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:12,800 dashes like that but sometimes they're 1974 01:43:18,130 --> 01:43:15,050 just dashes like this kind of semi 1975 01:43:24,970 --> 01:43:18,140 horizontal dashes so that could be Hogan 1976 01:43:27,870 --> 01:43:24,980 script is Celtic in origin now now 1977 01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:27,880 throwing that wrench into this pile 1978 01:43:37,810 --> 01:43:34,880 right could this be a type of rosetta 1979 01:43:40,930 --> 01:43:37,820 stone where each one of these columns is 1980 01:43:41,500 --> 01:43:40,940 saying the exact same thing it certainly 1981 01:43:43,630 --> 01:43:41,510 could be 1982 01:43:48,820 --> 01:43:43,640 and actually Jimmy that's a really good 1983 01:43:50,470 --> 01:43:48,830 idea I'm not sure about that I mean 1984 01:43:53,110 --> 01:43:50,480 maybe maybe the one that we're just 1985 01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:53,120 talking about and then you know maybe 1986 01:43:58,390 --> 01:43:55,970 it's referring to those pictographs that 1987 01:44:00,910 --> 01:43:58,400 are on the on the the road next to it 1988 01:44:03,610 --> 01:44:00,920 and maybe those dashed lines on the 1989 01:44:04,090 --> 01:44:03,620 first to the far left and the next one 1990 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:04,100 over 1991 01:44:10,270 --> 01:44:07,610 maybe those are saying the same thing 1992 01:44:12,580 --> 01:44:10,280 but you know yet you can't ignore that 1993 01:44:16,570 --> 01:44:12,590 at the bottom of the first second and 1994 01:44:21,820 --> 01:44:16,580 the fifth row right are some figures 1995 01:44:26,140 --> 01:44:21,830 human figures descending from the eye or 1996 01:44:29,470 --> 01:44:26,150 the heavens through rays of light man 1997 01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:29,480 you know and before we go all et alien 1998 01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:37,520 conspiracy right you know people people 1999 01:44:42,490 --> 01:44:39,250 are gonna see this it's kind of obvious 2000 01:44:44,770 --> 01:44:42,500 and you know what I mean I have to say 2001 01:44:45,490 --> 01:44:44,780 if if you look at it from that 2002 01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:45,500 perspective 2003 01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:49,010 I can see it yes I get that maybe that's 2004 01:44:52,690 --> 01:44:51,770 you know could that be I don't know a 2005 01:45:00,040 --> 01:44:52,700 spaceship 2006 01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:00,050 there's some type of communication going 2007 01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:03,890 on or lowering or raising of people I 2008 01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:05,370 mean who knows yes 2009 01:45:10,100 --> 01:45:08,010 now okay now this is the other thing and 2010 01:45:11,690 --> 01:45:10,110 I saw this right away and I know that 2011 01:45:14,300 --> 01:45:11,700 you're seeing the same thing so let's 2012 01:45:18,710 --> 01:45:14,310 point this out the three humanoid 2013 01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:18,720 figures and I say humanoid because it 2014 01:45:23,530 --> 01:45:21,330 looks like two arms and two legs except 2015 01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:23,540 each one of them is distinctly different 2016 01:45:33,310 --> 01:45:27,510 and endued number one on the far left 2017 01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:33,320 looks like he's got a ten eye he's got 2018 01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:35,970 things coming off the top of his head 2019 01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:39,210 I've got two pictures of this I want to 2020 01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:41,130 look at the other picture yeah let me go 2021 01:45:47,900 --> 01:45:44,090 to the second image as well as I 2022 01:45:51,980 --> 01:45:47,910 intentionally move the light in in 2023 01:45:53,570 --> 01:45:51,990 different in different directions we you 2024 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:53,580 know one coming from the top of one 2025 01:45:59,210 --> 01:45:56,010 coming from the side and the one coming 2026 01:46:02,630 --> 01:45:59,220 from the side which is the shows the 2027 01:46:05,650 --> 01:46:02,640 whole stone is a better image of that of 2028 01:46:09,260 --> 01:46:05,660 that figure 2029 01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:09,270 man that is crazy and then the second 2030 01:46:17,480 --> 01:46:13,290 yes and the second one it's either a 2031 01:46:20,930 --> 01:46:17,490 dress or some kind of triangle bottom to 2032 01:46:27,530 --> 01:46:20,940 where the legs would be my impression is 2033 01:46:35,660 --> 01:46:27,540 it's female yes yeah I don't know maybe 2034 01:46:37,610 --> 01:46:35,670 or maybe it's hovering I don't know the 2035 01:46:41,870 --> 01:46:37,620 one on the far right in the fifth panel 2036 01:46:44,750 --> 01:46:41,880 that that almost looks that one looks 2037 01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:44,760 kind of more typical human but it's an 2038 01:46:52,130 --> 01:46:48,480 awful big head I am going to I'm gonna 2039 01:46:56,810 --> 01:46:52,140 blow this up I have the ability to do 2040 01:47:04,400 --> 01:46:56,820 this let me I'm going to go very large 2041 01:47:08,270 --> 01:47:04,410 here that that far left image but 2042 01:47:11,630 --> 01:47:08,280 there's something going on that yeah or 2043 01:47:13,610 --> 01:47:11,640 to it and you know my first guess on the 2044 01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:13,620 right that that would be a break in the 2045 01:47:17,390 --> 01:47:15,570 rock but I don't think it is you know 2046 01:47:19,010 --> 01:47:17,400 what when we go when 2047 01:47:20,689 --> 01:47:19,020 go to commercial next I'm gonna go down 2048 01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:20,699 and take a look at that again yeah it 2049 01:47:25,939 --> 01:47:23,760 looks like the left arm which will be on 2050 01:47:30,500 --> 01:47:25,949 the right side of the picture might be 2051 01:47:31,070 --> 01:47:30,510 holding something like a knife yeah you 2052 01:47:34,910 --> 01:47:31,080 know what 2053 01:47:37,330 --> 01:47:34,920 good good observation there's something 2054 01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:37,340 going out but that other that's there's 2055 01:47:44,689 --> 01:47:40,800 something there's something going on 2056 01:47:47,410 --> 01:47:44,699 there man that is uh you know if you 2057 01:47:50,780 --> 01:47:47,420 want to look at it from that perspective 2058 01:47:52,970 --> 01:47:50,790 I can see where you can you can go down 2059 01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:52,980 there but you know maybe maybe it's 2060 01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:55,170 maybe we're overthinking it a bit who 2061 01:47:59,000 --> 01:47:57,570 knows I don't know hey we're having fun 2062 01:48:00,860 --> 01:47:59,010 here tonight we're looking at this for 2063 01:48:02,630 --> 01:48:00,870 the first time the first time and 2064 01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:02,640 everything everything's on the table 2065 01:48:06,649 --> 01:48:05,280 right until until we have a strong 2066 01:48:08,930 --> 01:48:06,659 argument to take it off 2067 01:48:12,500 --> 01:48:08,940 well now the other thing is in the 2068 01:48:15,290 --> 01:48:12,510 second image from the other angle you 2069 01:48:17,330 --> 01:48:15,300 can clearly see that that is an eye I 2070 01:48:21,590 --> 01:48:17,340 mean there is no question about that 2071 01:48:24,140 --> 01:48:21,600 yeah yeah and that's different than the 2072 01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:24,150 one that's pictured in Gloria's book and 2073 01:48:31,300 --> 01:48:26,370 I'm gonna say that that is a snake in 2074 01:48:36,110 --> 01:48:34,040 I've seen enough hieroglyphics in my day 2075 01:48:38,899 --> 01:48:36,120 to know that that's exactly what that is 2076 01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:38,909 the cross is interesting the X is 2077 01:48:46,550 --> 01:48:41,489 interesting that is definitely a turtle 2078 01:48:51,470 --> 01:48:46,560 that is a snake and that is an ankh that 2079 01:48:54,590 --> 01:48:51,480 that's an Egyptian column yeah yeah I 2080 01:48:56,570 --> 01:48:54,600 don't know what the three nails are but 2081 01:48:59,240 --> 01:48:56,580 they look like that you know that you've 2082 01:49:04,550 --> 01:48:59,250 seen that imagery Christian imagery of 2083 01:49:07,939 --> 01:49:04,560 the three nails that you know absolutely 2084 01:49:10,130 --> 01:49:07,949 based on the cross absolutely this is 2085 01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:10,140 incredible Scott I don't know what I'm 2086 01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:14,880 looking at now okay and hey we haven't 2087 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:16,770 even talked about the carvings on the 2088 01:49:21,380 --> 01:49:19,050 left and oh right right side of the 2089 01:49:24,260 --> 01:49:21,390 pyramid you're reading them full at the 2090 01:49:27,209 --> 01:49:24,270 top you're reading my mind the bowl 2091 01:49:32,010 --> 01:49:27,219 an eight-pointed star and then a couple 2092 01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:32,020 of ostrich feathers there on the on the 2093 01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:36,159 lower right which is Egyptian that's 2094 01:49:42,810 --> 01:49:40,810 Egyptian 100% I don't know what the 2095 01:49:46,229 --> 01:49:42,820 eight-pointed star would represent in 2096 01:49:48,419 --> 01:49:46,239 Egypt well it did you know the 2097 01:49:50,729 --> 01:49:48,429 eight-pointed star is typically 2098 01:49:52,500 --> 01:49:50,739 associated with Venus now all they would 2099 01:49:54,180 --> 01:49:52,510 have been rated the planet Venus for 2100 01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:54,190 sure every culture did it would have 2101 01:49:58,979 --> 01:49:56,770 been vitally important to them so that 2102 01:50:04,169 --> 01:49:58,989 eight-pointed star if that's what that 2103 01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:04,179 is and I bet it probably is that that 2104 01:50:09,689 --> 01:50:06,130 would be Egyptian as well okay now let's 2105 01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:09,699 go over to the left yeah because you're 2106 01:50:17,610 --> 01:50:13,840 Scott Wolter does that look like a hook 2107 01:50:19,919 --> 01:50:17,620 tax to you nobody wants it to be a hook 2108 01:50:22,110 --> 01:50:19,929 text more than me Jimmy but it's not I 2109 01:50:24,270 --> 01:50:22,120 think just a regular X and I look very 2110 01:50:26,879 --> 01:50:24,280 closely at that because of course my 2111 01:50:30,330 --> 01:50:26,889 radar is looking for the hook tax every 2112 01:50:35,850 --> 01:50:30,340 time sure but I I can't say that it is 2113 01:50:38,879 --> 01:50:35,860 I'd love it but no now below what where 2114 01:50:41,090 --> 01:50:38,889 the alleged hooked X is it's not a hook 2115 01:50:43,890 --> 01:50:41,100 duck so you can see the groove is what 2116 01:50:46,620 --> 01:50:43,900 in the rock that is coming and 2117 01:50:49,700 --> 01:50:46,630 continuing over it happens to hit the 2118 01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:49,710 bottom of the expedition as look hooked 2119 01:50:58,140 --> 01:50:54,690 yeah but going down that's a fish oh 2120 01:51:02,160 --> 01:50:58,150 yeah oh yeah absolutely and it's a fish 2121 01:51:06,300 --> 01:51:02,170 with a a large dorsal fin huge dorsal 2122 01:51:08,970 --> 01:51:06,310 appendage or you know certain fish have 2123 01:51:11,370 --> 01:51:08,980 you know that webbing between the dorsal 2124 01:51:13,290 --> 01:51:11,380 spines on the back of their right their 2125 01:51:15,660 --> 01:51:13,300 bodies this is a really interesting 2126 01:51:21,149 --> 01:51:15,670 looking fish it's it's actually quite 2127 01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:21,159 beautiful bird that could be a bird I 2128 01:51:25,649 --> 01:51:24,130 didn't send it to you but it's got it ah 2129 01:51:26,700 --> 01:51:25,659 you know what it looks like it almost 2130 01:51:33,450 --> 01:51:26,710 looks like a shark 2131 01:51:36,250 --> 01:51:33,460 I just Scott I just said it could be a 2132 01:51:40,180 --> 01:51:38,440 it could be earned yep if you think 2133 01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:40,190 about it that could be the wing on the 2134 01:51:47,110 --> 01:51:43,520 other side and then there's a wing on 2135 01:51:50,410 --> 01:51:47,120 this side and then and the back is the 2136 01:51:52,750 --> 01:51:50,420 dorsal guiding feathers so what I'm 2137 01:51:57,730 --> 01:51:52,760 gonna I'm not going there I can't go 2138 01:52:01,630 --> 01:51:57,740 there you can't go there this one 2139 01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:01,640 yeah I saw fish at first too as well but 2140 01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:05,650 could be a blood this yeah this is just 2141 01:52:14,770 --> 01:52:12,290 absolutely mind-bending yeah it's it's 2142 01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:14,780 crazy cool is what I think yeah it is 2143 01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:18,130 crazy cool the the bull throws me off 2144 01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:20,810 because it could be Egyptian but it's 2145 01:52:27,310 --> 01:52:24,320 not stylized in Egyptian but those two 2146 01:52:29,470 --> 01:52:27,320 feathers are Egyptian and that is a row 2147 01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:29,480 of hieroglyphics there is no question 2148 01:52:33,190 --> 01:52:30,080 about that 2149 01:52:34,900 --> 01:52:33,200 and then there's there's other things 2150 01:52:37,330 --> 01:52:34,910 going on this could be some kind of 2151 01:52:39,850 --> 01:52:37,340 rosetta stone or could be a thing else 2152 01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:39,860 happening here well you know the bowl 2153 01:52:45,490 --> 01:52:42,770 what looks to me like a bowl at the top 2154 01:52:49,870 --> 01:52:45,500 on the right there but don't forget the 2155 01:52:52,350 --> 01:52:49,880 APUs ball of Taurus was heavily 2156 01:52:55,060 --> 01:52:52,360 ingrained in the Egyptian culture for 2157 01:52:59,890 --> 01:52:55,070 2700 years I mean they found all kinds 2158 01:53:03,310 --> 01:52:59,900 of mummified bowls and cattle and and so 2159 01:53:06,700 --> 01:53:03,320 that that works perfect now why did you 2160 01:53:14,170 --> 01:53:06,710 take the close-up of this bowl with a 2161 01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:14,180 pointed star that looks just old to me 2162 01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:18,770 it is Elleni it's weathered in its and 2163 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:22,400 it's old I mean you know but remember 2164 01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:26,210 the the rock itself has a relatively 2165 01:53:31,300 --> 01:53:29,360 weak cement of these quartz grains I 2166 01:53:34,780 --> 01:53:31,310 mean the little sand grains are very 2167 01:53:37,210 --> 01:53:34,790 hard but they're not held together you 2168 01:53:40,090 --> 01:53:37,220 know with it with a strong binder let's 2169 01:53:41,950 --> 01:53:40,100 say so the weathering you know it's not 2170 01:53:44,740 --> 01:53:41,960 going to take a million years for this 2171 01:53:47,260 --> 01:53:44,750 thing to weather or houses of years it's 2172 01:53:47,810 --> 01:53:47,270 you know this thing I would say the 2173 01:53:50,090 --> 01:53:47,820 weathering 2174 01:53:53,030 --> 01:53:50,100 of this is at least decades in an 2175 01:53:55,700 --> 01:53:53,040 aggressive environment and perhaps as 2176 01:53:59,840 --> 01:53:55,710 much as 250 years which is what the 2177 01:54:01,490 --> 01:53:59,850 dates suggest so but but here let's go 2178 01:54:04,910 --> 01:54:01,500 back to for a second and let's just 2179 01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:04,920 pretend that these stones were part of a 2180 01:54:09,170 --> 01:54:07,110 community that many of them I don't 2181 01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:09,180 think this was a gravestone but a lot of 2182 01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:13,050 them are gravestones why did they end up 2183 01:54:19,940 --> 01:54:16,050 suddenly all of them why were they put 2184 01:54:23,030 --> 01:54:19,950 inside of this cave something happened 2185 01:54:26,380 --> 01:54:23,040 right and they just gathered up all of 2186 01:54:29,090 --> 01:54:26,390 the stuff that they probably thought 2187 01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:29,100 somebody would would consider to be 2188 01:54:37,010 --> 01:54:32,400 heretical right mmm like maybe the 2189 01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:37,020 Catholic Church maybe you know a 2190 01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:39,570 Catholic mission was to be established 2191 01:54:44,510 --> 01:54:42,000 in the area and they made contact with 2192 01:54:46,940 --> 01:54:44,520 this community or somebody alerted them 2193 01:54:49,940 --> 01:54:46,950 that somebody was coming that probably 2194 01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:49,950 wouldn't look too kindly on on what they 2195 01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:52,170 had laid out if this was maybe a 2196 01:54:55,550 --> 01:54:53,130 cemetery 2197 01:54:59,480 --> 01:54:55,560 I mean I'm speculating here but the 2198 01:55:01,220 --> 01:54:59,490 weathering seems to suggest that and all 2199 01:55:02,930 --> 01:55:01,230 of a sudden something happened they all 2200 01:55:05,570 --> 01:55:02,940 got rounded up and they put him inside 2201 01:55:08,270 --> 01:55:05,580 this cave and they apparently put him in 2202 01:55:11,150 --> 01:55:08,280 there with possibly a ritual with this 2203 01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:11,160 blue wash that was you know put on the 2204 01:55:16,250 --> 01:55:12,960 surface of this some of them are still 2205 01:55:18,410 --> 01:55:16,260 blue in color and you know it's it's 2206 01:55:20,540 --> 01:55:18,420 still there the guy said they washed a 2207 01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:20,550 lot of it off but they didn't get it all 2208 01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:24,090 off but what happened Jim why did they 2209 01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:26,730 suddenly put those things in the cave 2210 01:55:31,540 --> 01:55:28,770 something happened yeah so I guess 2211 01:55:35,410 --> 01:55:31,550 somebody got picked up by a tractor beam 2212 01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:35,420 [Laughter] 2213 01:55:40,310 --> 01:55:38,400 dude on the right I mean how else are we 2214 01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:40,320 supposed to look at that anybody's gonna 2215 01:55:48,350 --> 01:55:43,530 look at scientists stop that 2216 01:55:50,779 --> 01:55:48,360 man this is incredible this is this is 2217 01:55:54,229 --> 01:55:50,789 you know what somebody's trying to tell 2218 01:55:56,750 --> 01:55:54,239 us something the whole story is here in 2219 01:55:58,939 --> 01:55:56,760 front of us by the way your other 2220 01:56:06,680 --> 01:55:58,949 close-up of the fish that is definitely 2221 01:56:09,620 --> 01:56:06,690 a fish yeah I take that back you don't 2222 01:56:14,419 --> 01:56:09,630 have to be right every time I'm never 2223 01:56:17,270 --> 01:56:14,429 right this is so much fun 2224 01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:17,280 I have no idea and you know what 2225 01:56:23,839 --> 01:56:21,360 seriously I'm telling you I mean this is 2226 01:56:26,330 --> 01:56:23,849 really the first time that I've really 2227 01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:26,340 sat and I mean I got home last night 2228 01:56:31,220 --> 01:56:29,010 yeah I know first time I've been able to 2229 01:56:33,620 --> 01:56:31,230 sit and talk about this with anybody 2230 01:56:35,390 --> 01:56:33,630 you're the first one Jim and I'm not 2231 01:56:39,589 --> 01:56:35,400 making this up I'm not I'm not 2232 01:56:41,419 --> 01:56:39,599 embellishing a bit I've had very little 2233 01:56:43,879 --> 01:56:41,429 discs I mean I've had some discussion 2234 01:56:46,250 --> 01:56:43,889 with people but this stone I haven't had 2235 01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:46,260 a chance to look at until right now well 2236 01:56:51,169 --> 01:56:49,770 you know what you're gonna be I just 2237 01:56:53,660 --> 01:56:51,179 made up my mind you're gonna be on a 2238 01:56:59,240 --> 01:56:53,670 coast to coast with me on Saturday we're 2239 01:57:01,220 --> 01:56:59,250 gonna continue okay let's continue to 2240 01:57:04,399 --> 01:57:01,230 break this story out to the world it 2241 01:57:06,229 --> 01:57:04,409 needs to be it needs to be seen and and 2242 01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:06,239 the more people that can lay their eyes 2243 01:57:13,100 --> 01:57:10,170 on this hopefully we'll get some more 2244 01:57:16,339 --> 01:57:13,110 information here but there's also so 2245 01:57:19,310 --> 01:57:16,349 here's what we gotta do I break pretty 2246 01:57:23,149 --> 01:57:19,320 soon yeah in one minute okay so what we 2247 01:57:26,660 --> 01:57:23,159 got to do now is we've got to so we push 2248 01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:26,670 this thing back right about over 500 2249 01:57:31,069 --> 01:57:29,760 years now I'm gonna push this back even 2250 01:57:33,529 --> 01:57:31,079 farther okay 2251 01:57:35,359 --> 01:57:33,539 okay with what in we're gonna move on to 2252 01:57:37,279 --> 01:57:35,369 a couple of other pictures I sent you 2253 01:57:39,799 --> 01:57:37,289 that are going to take this in two 2254 01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:39,809 different directions figuratively and 2255 01:57:45,770 --> 01:57:42,650 literally okay 2256 01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:45,780 graphically and historically which image 2257 01:57:54,020 --> 01:57:48,690 is next okay so the next one I want to 2258 01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:54,030 show you is going to be hold on the one 2259 01:57:59,940 --> 01:57:56,530 with the with the inscription 2260 01:58:02,280 --> 01:57:59,950 the skull laying on its side the one 2261 01:58:06,950 --> 01:58:02,290 with the inscription and the skull 2262 01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:12,360 9750 okay I'm trying to see which one 2263 01:58:25,620 --> 01:58:21,990 I don't think you sent me that Scott if 2264 01:58:28,230 --> 01:58:25,630 I didn't send it I know it sent you I 2265 01:58:32,220 --> 01:58:28,240 did send you one that has an inscription 2266 01:58:39,050 --> 01:58:32,230 and then I sent you the larger piece 2267 01:58:47,100 --> 01:58:39,060 that has an angel an archangel holding a 2268 01:58:50,820 --> 01:58:47,110 sword okay that see that one hold on not 2269 01:58:53,190 --> 01:58:50,830 the one with the menorah no it's the one 2270 01:58:58,170 --> 01:58:53,200 like the one with the one with the 2271 01:59:01,230 --> 01:58:58,180 serpent going around it nope that's also 2272 01:59:05,970 --> 01:59:01,240 the Tucson letter okay so let's you 2273 01:59:08,300 --> 01:59:05,980 didn't send it okay so okay send it now 2274 01:59:09,620 --> 01:59:08,310 and as a matter of fact send it via text 2275 01:59:13,530 --> 01:59:09,630 okay 2276 01:59:16,380 --> 01:59:13,540 how we do it this is live radio 2277 01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:16,390 everybody this is how production is done 2278 01:59:21,390 --> 01:59:18,090 our guest tonight Scott Wolter 2279 01:59:24,690 --> 01:59:21,400 absolutely tremendous discovery going on 2280 01:59:26,700 --> 01:59:24,700 and you are learning along with me all 2281 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:26,710 of us in the world for the first time 2282 01:59:28,500 --> 01:59:27,970 we'll be right back after this short 2283 01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:28,510 break 2284 01:59:36,710 --> 01:59:31,970 this is fade to black 2285 01:59:43,090 --> 01:59:36,720 [Music] 2286 01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:46,370 this is kera digital broadcasting 2287 01:59:51,890 --> 01:59:48,930 station 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a 2358 02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:45,610 weekly digital newsletter filled with 2359 02:02:49,950 --> 02:02:47,650 the latest paranormal news trending 2360 02:02:51,990 --> 02:02:49,960 topics and fresh articles from some of 2361 02:02:54,330 --> 02:02:52,000 the most popular critical thinkers in 2362 02:02:56,490 --> 02:02:54,340 the community today stay informed on 2363 02:02:59,070 --> 02:02:56,500 your favorite paranormal podcasts and 2364 02:03:01,080 --> 02:02:59,080 live streaming talk shows interact with 2365 02:03:03,690 --> 02:03:01,090 the telepath and upload your paranormal 2366 02:03:05,850 --> 02:03:03,700 story or pics it could be featured in an 2367 02:03:08,250 --> 02:03:05,860 upcoming edition sign up right now for 2368 02:03:10,860 --> 02:03:08,260 the free telepath newsletter at 2369 02:03:16,750 --> 02:03:10,870 paranormal talk radio that's paranormal 2370 02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:20,770 [Music] 2371 02:03:28,180 --> 02:03:25,550 you wanna know a secret I love ponies I 2372 02:03:30,770 --> 02:03:28,190 really love ponies I'm serious I 2373 02:03:34,700 --> 02:03:30,780 couldn't stay stable without poor mr. 2374 02:03:39,910 --> 02:03:34,710 Brooks why fade to black because you 2375 02:03:43,879 --> 02:03:41,780 this is fade to black 2376 02:03:47,570 --> 02:03:43,889 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 2377 02:03:49,170 --> 02:03:47,580 radio network and kgr a the global radio 2378 02:03:54,490 --> 02:03:49,180 alliance 2379 02:04:03,910 --> 02:04:01,560 [Music] 2380 02:04:05,859 --> 02:04:03,920 walk it back fade to black 2381 02:04:07,959 --> 02:04:05,869 I am your host Jimmy Church tonight 2382 02:04:12,070 --> 02:04:07,969 Scott Wolter is here breaking another 2383 02:04:15,459 --> 02:04:12,080 story another discovery and we've got 2384 02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:15,469 those other images in Scott thank you so 2385 02:04:20,310 --> 02:04:17,570 much we'll get these up in Twitter in 2386 02:04:23,470 --> 02:04:20,320 just a second and before we get to those 2387 02:04:26,229 --> 02:04:23,480 Scott look you know of what I'm thinking 2388 02:04:30,129 --> 02:04:26,239 right now too good to be true all right 2389 02:04:32,890 --> 02:04:30,139 it's just this is just too too good to 2390 02:04:36,459 --> 02:04:32,900 be true and I know that's exactly what 2391 02:04:39,669 --> 02:04:36,469 went through your mind right well it did 2392 02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:39,679 for a second but it went away pretty 2393 02:04:45,129 --> 02:04:42,800 quick because there they were I mean you 2394 02:04:48,450 --> 02:04:45,139 know they were in front of me and I was 2395 02:04:50,919 --> 02:04:48,460 looking at them and they were they were 2396 02:04:53,589 --> 02:04:50,929 they were doing they were doing well 2397 02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:53,599 under examination then I got a chance to 2398 02:04:58,990 --> 02:04:56,690 bring samples back to the lab now there 2399 02:05:01,839 --> 02:04:59,000 is one other thing that I'll tell you 2400 02:05:05,970 --> 02:05:01,849 about that I can't show you yet but 2401 02:05:10,660 --> 02:05:05,980 there's also an artifact that is a bone 2402 02:05:12,669 --> 02:05:10,670 that has carvings on it a bone it's part 2403 02:05:14,830 --> 02:05:12,679 of this collection - but it wasn't found 2404 02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:14,840 with these slabs it was found in the 2405 02:05:22,330 --> 02:05:17,690 area though but it also has Hebrew on it 2406 02:05:28,050 --> 02:05:22,340 so don't tell me it's a bone from a 2407 02:05:32,620 --> 02:05:30,490 actually I don't know what it's not a 2408 02:05:37,180 --> 02:05:32,630 human bone it's a nominal animal bone 2409 02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:37,190 but it's a big everyone and that is 2410 02:05:42,899 --> 02:05:40,250 being c14 dated right now I don't have 2411 02:05:49,030 --> 02:05:42,909 the results back yet now okay there is 2412 02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:49,040 there's an element of this that I I find 2413 02:05:57,490 --> 02:05:51,770 interesting and that would be do you 2414 02:06:01,209 --> 02:05:57,500 think that the how do I say this that 2415 02:06:05,770 --> 02:06:01,219 the cave may have been constantly 2416 02:06:07,839 --> 02:06:05,780 visited you know that's interesting you 2417 02:06:11,500 --> 02:06:07,849 in other words they give they add it to 2418 02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:11,510 the pile right right yes yes you know 2419 02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:14,210 I won't won't be able to say anything 2420 02:06:19,779 --> 02:06:15,170 about that 2421 02:06:23,589 --> 02:06:19,789 until I look at the video that was given 2422 02:06:25,569 --> 02:06:23,599 to me to you know to look at I just got 2423 02:06:28,330 --> 02:06:25,579 that day before yesterday 2424 02:06:30,729 --> 02:06:28,340 and I have not had a chance to to look 2425 02:06:32,830 --> 02:06:30,739 at it so I really don't know the answer 2426 02:06:36,850 --> 02:06:32,840 to that all I know is when they found 2427 02:06:38,709 --> 02:06:36,860 him they were stacked up and either they 2428 02:06:40,330 --> 02:06:38,719 were all put in there at once or maybe 2429 02:06:43,299 --> 02:06:40,340 they were stacked over time I really 2430 02:06:50,649 --> 02:06:43,309 don't know but clearly clearly it's a 2431 02:06:53,350 --> 02:06:50,659 repository okay images that we're just 2432 02:06:57,669 --> 02:06:53,360 sent in Scott sent us for these are the 2433 02:07:02,970 --> 02:06:57,679 first two I've got them up in Twitter 2434 02:07:09,129 --> 02:07:02,980 now again which ones are they they are 2435 02:07:12,450 --> 02:07:09,139 the the stone itself in its entirety and 2436 02:07:15,879 --> 02:07:12,460 then the second one is the close-up of 2437 02:07:18,279 --> 02:07:15,889 what may be a date with the skull on the 2438 02:07:22,810 --> 02:07:18,289 bottom I'm guessing a date I don't know 2439 02:07:27,040 --> 02:07:22,820 okay so the one is the the one is the 2440 02:07:30,029 --> 02:07:27,050 overall picture that shows the the arc 2441 02:07:32,680 --> 02:07:30,039 Archangel with a sword there's a date of 2442 02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:32,690 1760 on it and then there's a script and 2443 02:07:37,689 --> 02:07:35,090 inscription underneath his feet right i 2444 02:07:41,799 --> 02:07:37,699 underneath the skull that's the two 2445 02:07:43,750 --> 02:07:41,809 images I have oh okay the skull okay 2446 02:07:45,129 --> 02:07:43,760 we're gonna do that one first okay okay 2447 02:07:48,250 --> 02:07:45,139 oh wait a minute 2448 02:07:50,109 --> 02:07:48,260 oh is this on the backside of it no no 2449 02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:50,119 no there are two different slabs two 2450 02:07:55,689 --> 02:07:52,400 different slabs oh no the one that you 2451 02:07:57,669 --> 02:07:55,699 have with the skull right okay now the 2452 02:08:01,060 --> 02:07:57,679 other picture that you should put up 2453 02:08:04,569 --> 02:08:01,070 with it is the Poteau ruin stone found 2454 02:08:08,319 --> 02:08:04,579 near healer Heavener oklahoma okay it's 2455 02:08:10,029 --> 02:08:08,329 already okay we can't take the post town 2456 02:08:12,189 --> 02:08:10,039 the post is already up so we're looking 2457 02:08:14,109 --> 02:08:12,199 at two different stones here the one 2458 02:08:17,290 --> 02:08:14,119 with the skull and then this one with 2459 02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:17,300 the 1760 with the Archangel with the 2460 02:08:22,180 --> 02:08:19,730 stone okay with the sword 2461 02:08:24,340 --> 02:08:22,190 let's start with the one with the skull 2462 02:08:30,020 --> 02:08:24,350 laying on the side god it was 2463 02:08:33,590 --> 02:08:30,030 okay gotcha Ganon avian runes that is a 2464 02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:33,600 runic inscription that inscription is 2465 02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:36,930 exactly the same as the Poteau rune 2466 02:08:43,610 --> 02:08:41,010 stone that was found in Oklahoma very 2467 02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:43,620 close to the Hebrew rune stone which is 2468 02:08:49,450 --> 02:08:46,890 one of the most famous rune stones and 2469 02:08:52,160 --> 02:08:49,460 that's ever been found in North America 2470 02:08:54,140 --> 02:08:52,170 most people know about that know 2471 02:08:56,660 --> 02:08:54,150 anything about this pre-columbian stuff 2472 02:08:58,730 --> 02:08:56,670 know about the Hebrew rune stone very if 2473 02:09:00,890 --> 02:08:58,740 you know about the portal rune stone and 2474 02:09:02,690 --> 02:09:00,900 that inscription on the portal rune 2475 02:09:05,390 --> 02:09:02,700 stone which is not the same as the 2476 02:09:08,450 --> 02:09:05,400 evening but it is exactly the same as 2477 02:09:10,700 --> 02:09:08,460 this stone with the skull laying on the 2478 02:09:15,500 --> 02:09:10,710 side now what is it what does it say 2479 02:09:17,780 --> 02:09:15,510 what's the rune inscription oh it's in 2480 02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:17,790 glorious book but I can't remember the 2481 02:09:23,540 --> 02:09:20,730 first word is Gloam and they think 2482 02:09:27,020 --> 02:09:23,550 that's we think that's a name like it's 2483 02:09:31,820 --> 02:09:27,030 a possessive like gloams something like 2484 02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:31,830 it belongs to him and that skull is 2485 02:09:38,510 --> 02:09:34,890 beautiful yeah it's really good isn't it 2486 02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:38,520 Wow yeah the eyes are the eyes are 2487 02:09:44,050 --> 02:09:42,480 insane they stick right out but here's 2488 02:09:47,620 --> 02:09:44,060 the thing that's important about this 2489 02:09:52,700 --> 02:09:47,630 what the heck is this runic inscription 2490 02:09:55,400 --> 02:09:52,710 that is you know presumably well it is 2491 02:10:02,540 --> 02:09:55,410 the same as the total rune stone which 2492 02:10:05,420 --> 02:10:02,550 many people believe is you know a Viking 2493 02:10:09,470 --> 02:10:05,430 in age this would be pre-columbian by 2494 02:10:12,710 --> 02:10:09,480 500 years the oldest date that we see 2495 02:10:15,320 --> 02:10:12,720 carved just outside the cave of 1501 so 2496 02:10:17,780 --> 02:10:15,330 the the question is how are these 2497 02:10:20,660 --> 02:10:17,790 connected is this somebody who was 2498 02:10:22,970 --> 02:10:20,670 educated in runes and this particular 2499 02:10:26,750 --> 02:10:22,980 word or phrase or whatever it is and I I 2500 02:10:29,810 --> 02:10:26,760 don't know exactly what it says but it's 2501 02:10:31,730 --> 02:10:29,820 being used with these stones where is 2502 02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:31,740 the connection could this be something 2503 02:10:36,189 --> 02:10:34,530 that was passed down within this crypto 2504 02:10:38,830 --> 02:10:36,199 Jewish community 2505 02:10:40,660 --> 02:10:38,840 that lived in the Iberian Peninsula that 2506 02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:40,670 was chased out of there by the Spanish 2507 02:10:45,399 --> 02:10:43,010 Inquisition that's sort of the thesis 2508 02:10:46,839 --> 02:10:45,409 that we're running with here that that 2509 02:10:48,879 --> 02:10:46,849 is a huge question 2510 02:10:51,100 --> 02:10:48,889 now the other inscription the one where 2511 02:10:53,799 --> 02:10:51,110 the guys holding the sword yes that 2512 02:10:55,390 --> 02:10:53,809 looks like it's also mostly ruins I 2513 02:10:59,439 --> 02:10:55,400 think some of those characters are not 2514 02:11:01,799 --> 02:10:59,449 ruins but that same inscription is also 2515 02:11:04,270 --> 02:11:01,809 found in Tulsa Oklahoma 2516 02:11:06,910 --> 02:11:04,280 carved on a cliff wall and it's been 2517 02:11:09,040 --> 02:11:06,920 known about for probably 150 to 200 2518 02:11:11,529 --> 02:11:09,050 years right what is the connection now 2519 02:11:14,350 --> 02:11:11,539 we have two inscriptions that contain 2520 02:11:17,020 --> 02:11:14,360 ruins that are connected to rune stones 2521 02:11:19,810 --> 02:11:17,030 that were already found in Oklahoma and 2522 02:11:22,089 --> 02:11:19,820 I just went this tonight on Google Maps 2523 02:11:25,180 --> 02:11:22,099 and I looked real quick it's not that 2524 02:11:28,359 --> 02:11:25,190 it's not that terribly far from where 2525 02:11:30,129 --> 02:11:28,369 these stones were found now the other 2526 02:11:32,439 --> 02:11:30,139 thing I want to make sure I get this in 2527 02:11:35,339 --> 02:11:32,449 because it's along the same vein it 2528 02:11:38,350 --> 02:11:35,349 appears we have inscriptions that tie 2529 02:11:40,120 --> 02:11:38,360 these stones this cache of stones two 2530 02:11:42,819 --> 02:11:40,130 older inscriptions that have been found 2531 02:11:45,219 --> 02:11:42,829 in the United States that are up to 500 2532 02:11:48,250 --> 02:11:45,229 years older but let's go back and talk 2533 02:11:50,850 --> 02:11:48,260 about the Hebrew for a second okay if 2534 02:11:54,180 --> 02:11:50,860 you go farther wast from this location 2535 02:11:58,029 --> 02:11:54,190 into Arizona into Tucson Arizona 2536 02:12:00,279 --> 02:11:58,039 following the Rio Grande River you ever 2537 02:12:02,049 --> 02:12:00,289 heard of the Tucson led artifacts yeah 2538 02:12:04,959 --> 02:12:02,059 we've discussed that before on this show 2539 02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:04,969 yes we have well those two pictures that 2540 02:12:09,009 --> 02:12:07,010 I sent you that you were confused and 2541 02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:09,019 thought were part of this cache are 2542 02:12:14,919 --> 02:12:12,530 actually part of the Tucson lead 2543 02:12:17,529 --> 02:12:14,929 artifacts cache the reason I sent you 2544 02:12:20,350 --> 02:12:17,539 those is because the Hebrew that occurs 2545 02:12:22,060 --> 02:12:20,360 on that once that one artifact that has 2546 02:12:25,209 --> 02:12:22,070 the menorah on it mm-hmm 2547 02:12:27,879 --> 02:12:25,219 though that Hebrew also has vowel 2548 02:12:31,419 --> 02:12:27,889 indicators just like the stones in this 2549 02:12:34,270 --> 02:12:31,429 cache the difference is these stones are 2550 02:12:36,879 --> 02:12:34,280 self dated to the 8th 9th and 10th 2551 02:12:39,430 --> 02:12:36,889 centuries here again they date to about 2552 02:12:43,359 --> 02:12:39,440 the period as the rune stones up in 2553 02:12:47,410 --> 02:12:43,369 Oklahoma and could these of them a the 2554 02:12:49,270 --> 02:12:47,420 ancestors of the community that carved 2555 02:12:53,080 --> 02:12:49,280 these stones that were looking at now 2556 02:12:55,030 --> 02:12:53,090 and and it appears that they knew a safe 2557 02:12:57,160 --> 02:12:55,040 haven was over here because their 2558 02:13:00,580 --> 02:12:57,170 ancestors had already been here that's 2559 02:13:03,940 --> 02:13:00,590 what is important about the Tucson led 2560 02:13:06,820 --> 02:13:03,950 artifacts and the runic inscriptions up 2561 02:13:08,770 --> 02:13:06,830 in Oklahoma so you know at first glance 2562 02:13:13,030 --> 02:13:08,780 we're looking at something that's you 2563 02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:13,040 know Post's Columbus or contemporaneous 2564 02:13:17,620 --> 02:13:15,890 with Columbus but because of the Hebrew 2565 02:13:19,030 --> 02:13:17,630 vowel indicators and the runic 2566 02:13:21,700 --> 02:13:19,040 inscriptions on these stones were 2567 02:13:24,490 --> 02:13:21,710 looking at now maybe this community 2568 02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:24,500 these people are the descendants of 2569 02:13:28,330 --> 02:13:26,810 other groups that came over here 2570 02:13:30,910 --> 02:13:28,340 probably because they were under 2571 02:13:35,550 --> 02:13:30,920 persecution at the time as well well 2572 02:13:39,220 --> 02:13:35,560 like I said okay it seems that this is 2573 02:13:45,370 --> 02:13:39,230 Scott because of the date that's glaring 2574 02:13:49,450 --> 02:13:45,380 at everybody here 1760 right verily very 2575 02:13:51,250 --> 02:13:49,460 clearly done with intention right it's 2576 02:13:54,040 --> 02:13:51,260 right there 2577 02:14:00,760 --> 02:13:54,050 so that would wouldn't that suggest to 2578 02:14:04,420 --> 02:14:00,770 you that this cave was was continuously 2579 02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:04,430 known I mean how could you have 2580 02:14:08,710 --> 02:14:06,890 something that is 1500 years old or a 2581 02:14:11,860 --> 02:14:08,720 thousand years old I'm talking about the 2582 02:14:14,230 --> 02:14:11,870 original set of stones that appear to be 2583 02:14:18,610 --> 02:14:14,240 the oldest and then something that is 2584 02:14:21,760 --> 02:14:18,620 stated at 1760 we're talking about a 2585 02:14:24,370 --> 02:14:21,770 period of eight hundred to a thousand 2586 02:14:26,770 --> 02:14:24,380 years no let's go back you know you're 2587 02:14:29,820 --> 02:14:26,780 confused and I and I'm confusing you the 2588 02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:29,830 oldest date that we have at the site 2589 02:14:34,930 --> 02:14:32,570 outside the cave carved on the cliff 2590 02:14:39,310 --> 02:14:34,940 wall is 1501 right 2591 02:14:43,420 --> 02:14:39,320 we have stones that are dated 1507 2592 02:14:45,430 --> 02:14:43,430 fifteen eleven fifteen sixteen and we 2593 02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:45,440 have stones that are dated seventeen 2594 02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:48,970 sixty sixty this one right here right in 2595 02:14:54,960 --> 02:14:51,970 1762 so what we're talking about 2596 02:14:58,000 --> 02:14:54,970 potentially is a community that existed 2597 02:14:59,659 --> 02:14:58,010 for two hundred and sixty years gotcha 2598 02:15:02,000 --> 02:14:59,669 gotcha gotcha hey 2599 02:15:04,159 --> 02:15:02,010 yes that make is that make sense yeah no 2600 02:15:06,290 --> 02:15:04,169 the reason why the the number of 2601 02:15:08,919 --> 02:15:06,300 thousands took out to stuck out to me is 2602 02:15:12,589 --> 02:15:08,929 because you said that the vowel 2603 02:15:14,689 --> 02:15:12,599 reference right was a thousand years old 2604 02:15:17,060 --> 02:15:14,699 and they can't be any older than that 2605 02:15:20,419 --> 02:15:17,070 right Betty came in more recent right 2606 02:15:22,339 --> 02:15:20,429 obviously but we know that we have stuff 2607 02:15:25,250 --> 02:15:22,349 that dates back to that period with the 2608 02:15:27,589 --> 02:15:25,260 Tucson wet artifacts and we think with 2609 02:15:29,750 --> 02:15:27,599 the Capener rune stone the portal rune 2610 02:15:32,060 --> 02:15:29,760 stone there's several runic inscriptions 2611 02:15:36,549 --> 02:15:32,070 in that area so it looks like we've got 2612 02:15:42,889 --> 02:15:39,709 crypto-jews it appears that started 2613 02:15:46,939 --> 02:15:42,899 going back to over a thousand years ago 2614 02:15:49,009 --> 02:15:46,949 all the way up to the 1760s now that 2615 02:15:52,520 --> 02:15:49,019 makes sense because they existed over in 2616 02:15:55,719 --> 02:15:52,530 Europe both in southern France and then 2617 02:15:58,370 --> 02:15:55,729 in the Iberian Peninsula now on this 2618 02:16:02,089 --> 02:15:58,380 this Archangel with the sword 2619 02:16:11,389 --> 02:16:02,099 the 1760 stone let's call it below the 2620 02:16:15,080 --> 02:16:11,399 letter G is MX 107 I have no idea what 2621 02:16:17,750 --> 02:16:15,090 that is that's cool though and clearly 2622 02:16:23,569 --> 02:16:17,760 that's a G that's an M I mean it could 2623 02:16:25,429 --> 02:16:23,579 be a date right well it's like 2100 107 2624 02:16:27,500 --> 02:16:25,439 I don't know if that's what it is though 2625 02:16:32,950 --> 02:16:27,510 that doesn't make sense 2626 02:16:36,639 --> 02:16:32,960 this isn't 1100 right this is 1760 and I 2627 02:16:39,649 --> 02:16:36,649 really don't know what that is I mean I 2628 02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:39,659 don't know yeah it's a combination of 2629 02:16:49,189 --> 02:16:46,889 Roman numerals and and modern MX 107 man 2630 02:16:53,599 --> 02:16:49,199 I have no idea must be the number of 2631 02:16:57,139 --> 02:16:53,609 their starship that that the I say that 2632 02:17:00,549 --> 02:16:57,149 ingest that letter G is is interesting 2633 02:17:06,510 --> 02:17:00,559 to know okay I want to go back if I can 2634 02:17:09,530 --> 02:17:06,520 to the skull the skull is is 2635 02:17:14,701 --> 02:17:09,540 intentional the artist whoever did it is 2636 02:17:17,880 --> 02:17:14,711 an incredible artist that stylized type 2637 02:17:21,840 --> 02:17:17,890 of skull is that are you able to get to 2638 02:17:26,730 --> 02:17:21,850 a period of when that kind of skull was 2639 02:17:29,970 --> 02:17:26,740 was part of a culture no I haven't I 2640 02:17:33,390 --> 02:17:29,980 haven't you know in gym I just got back 2641 02:17:35,430 --> 02:17:33,400 you know you know and I also want to you 2642 02:17:38,820 --> 02:17:35,440 know I want to make sure that you know 2643 02:17:41,460 --> 02:17:38,830 we give other people credit I mean I had 2644 02:17:44,640 --> 02:17:41,470 an archaeologist along with me her name 2645 02:17:47,550 --> 02:17:44,650 is Haley Ramsey and you know we were 2646 02:17:50,630 --> 02:17:47,560 planning on doing a dig there we were 2647 02:17:54,090 --> 02:17:50,640 hoping that we might be able to find 2648 02:17:55,951 --> 02:17:54,100 that Cemetery because if that cemetery 2649 02:17:59,491 --> 02:17:55,961 was there imagine what we could possibly 2650 02:18:03,480 --> 02:17:59,501 learn there but it was it's such a big 2651 02:18:05,610 --> 02:18:03,490 area and because of certain factors 2652 02:18:09,030 --> 02:18:05,620 farming had been done there we we 2653 02:18:12,360 --> 02:18:09,040 weren't able to to do a dig this time 2654 02:18:14,310 --> 02:18:12,370 plus it was hotter than hell but you 2655 02:18:16,951 --> 02:18:14,320 know she she offered a lot of good 2656 02:18:19,741 --> 02:18:16,961 comments on these stones as well and I 2657 02:18:22,291 --> 02:18:19,751 gotta give her kudos and that was her 2658 02:18:25,470 --> 02:18:22,301 hand with the with it with the nail 2659 02:18:27,840 --> 02:18:25,480 polish there but she's a sharp cookie 2660 02:18:29,701 --> 02:18:27,850 and and you know the guys that we were 2661 02:18:32,550 --> 02:18:29,711 working with the people that found these 2662 02:18:34,110 --> 02:18:32,560 stones you know they preserve they 2663 02:18:36,780 --> 02:18:34,120 protected these things and they've 2664 02:18:38,670 --> 02:18:36,790 they've done you know a good job here 2665 02:18:40,380 --> 02:18:38,680 and they documented a lot of what they 2666 02:18:43,741 --> 02:18:40,390 did there's a bunch of photographs that 2667 02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:43,751 were taken and so this isn't all me 2668 02:18:50,730 --> 02:18:45,850 doing this work that's the point the 2669 02:18:54,030 --> 02:18:50,740 Hebrew scholar Jerry Nutkin you know a 2670 02:18:56,791 --> 02:18:54,040 lot of people have assisted us already 2671 02:19:02,220 --> 02:18:56,801 and a lot more gonna be needed to help 2672 02:19:04,831 --> 02:19:02,230 us get to the bottom of this and there's 2673 02:19:06,690 --> 02:19:04,841 unfolding as we speak you know and but 2674 02:19:07,779 --> 02:19:06,700 remember something Jim we don't you know 2675 02:19:09,790 --> 02:19:07,789 this 2676 02:19:11,979 --> 02:19:09,800 the thing that I get uncomfortable with 2677 02:19:14,439 --> 02:19:11,989 sometimes is my face is always out there 2678 02:19:16,000 --> 02:19:14,449 on every episode and everybody thinks 2679 02:19:19,299 --> 02:19:16,010 that I do this by myself 2680 02:19:21,759 --> 02:19:19,309 I don't absolutely not there's usually 2681 02:19:23,529 --> 02:19:21,769 an army of people and what's beautiful 2682 02:19:27,129 --> 02:19:23,539 about that is when you work with other 2683 02:19:29,739 --> 02:19:27,139 smart people that collaboration you get 2684 02:19:32,379 --> 02:19:29,749 ten times farther down the road than 2685 02:19:39,910 --> 02:19:32,389 trying to do it all yourself the skull 2686 02:19:43,029 --> 02:19:39,920 almost looks Caribbean Jamaican it there 2687 02:19:46,540 --> 02:19:43,039 it's got a it's got a feeling like that 2688 02:19:48,250 --> 02:19:46,550 which would go back to Africa there's 2689 02:19:48,939 --> 02:19:48,260 something strange going on with that 2690 02:19:52,389 --> 02:19:48,949 skull 2691 02:19:54,849 --> 02:19:52,399 it doesn't seem and I know that's ruins 2692 02:19:59,410 --> 02:19:54,859 underneath it but it doesn't feel Nordic 2693 02:20:04,359 --> 02:19:59,420 to me it doesn't feel maybe the whole 2694 02:20:06,099 --> 02:20:04,369 thing doesn't look scary no it doesn't 2695 02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:06,109 look Scandinavian at all and I don't 2696 02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:07,850 think this is Scandinavia 2697 02:20:12,219 --> 02:20:10,010 just because their rooms doesn't mean 2698 02:20:13,899 --> 02:20:12,229 that it has anything to do with the 2699 02:20:16,779 --> 02:20:13,909 person being in you know being 2700 02:20:19,479 --> 02:20:16,789 Scandinavian or trying to create that 2701 02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:19,489 imagery this it's just another alphabet 2702 02:20:24,870 --> 02:20:22,010 I mean look at it we've got runes we've 2703 02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:24,880 got what appears to be ogum we've got 2704 02:20:28,359 --> 02:20:26,090 Latin 2705 02:20:30,849 --> 02:20:28,369 we've got Hebrew we've got Spanish we 2706 02:20:32,559 --> 02:20:30,859 got Portuguese we got a whole bunch of 2707 02:20:36,040 --> 02:20:32,569 stuff and I'm sure there's more here we 2708 02:20:40,210 --> 02:20:36,050 haven't figured out yet so it's really a 2709 02:20:45,460 --> 02:20:40,220 strange collection of script of language 2710 02:20:47,649 --> 02:20:45,470 of symbolism of iconography of all kinds 2711 02:20:50,380 --> 02:20:47,659 of stuff I mean it's just it's a Gyptian 2712 02:20:53,590 --> 02:20:50,390 of course it's it's really a strange 2713 02:20:55,300 --> 02:20:53,600 collection but on one hand it seems like 2714 02:20:57,040 --> 02:20:55,310 it's a mess but on the other hand the 2715 02:20:59,859 --> 02:20:57,050 more we think about it the more it 2716 02:21:03,670 --> 02:20:59,869 really does make sense well okay now 2717 02:21:08,950 --> 02:21:03,680 when we look at things in totality where 2718 02:21:11,830 --> 02:21:08,960 we've got to sign we have things in the 2719 02:21:15,570 --> 02:21:11,840 Grand Canyon we have Oklahoma we have 2720 02:21:18,330 --> 02:21:15,580 Minnesota we have Michigan 2721 02:21:22,290 --> 02:21:18,340 we have Florida we have bossed and we 2722 02:21:25,170 --> 02:21:22,300 have the the entire Northeast with 2723 02:21:30,570 --> 02:21:25,180 things on riverbeds and stones and and 2724 02:21:34,140 --> 02:21:30,580 caves and at one point the scales have 2725 02:21:36,720 --> 02:21:34,150 to tip don't they I mean because now the 2726 02:21:40,740 --> 02:21:36,730 evidence is just it is literally 2727 02:21:42,960 --> 02:21:40,750 starting to pile up well you mean as far 2728 02:21:47,370 --> 02:21:42,970 as pre-columbian people getting over 2729 02:21:49,770 --> 02:21:47,380 here yes well I mean do it you know I 2730 02:21:51,960 --> 02:21:49,780 forget sometimes that that you know 2731 02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:51,970 that's right we haven't progressed that 2732 02:21:57,330 --> 02:21:54,640 far yet academia hasn't accepted this I 2733 02:21:58,980 --> 02:21:57,340 mean you get the Runestone the Newport 2734 02:22:01,020 --> 02:21:58,990 tower or the spirit pond 2735 02:22:03,720 --> 02:22:01,030 you got the bad Creek stone you get all 2736 02:22:05,700 --> 02:22:03,730 this stuff it's like really and you know 2737 02:22:08,790 --> 02:22:05,710 don't forget the indigenous people that 2738 02:22:11,610 --> 02:22:08,800 are here you know nobody ever talks to 2739 02:22:13,020 --> 02:22:11,620 them they know about these people 2740 02:22:15,900 --> 02:22:13,030 they've been talking about them for a 2741 02:22:17,970 --> 02:22:15,910 long time but you know what is what is 2742 02:22:20,310 --> 02:22:17,980 the problem I don't get it 2743 02:22:22,680 --> 02:22:20,320 I just don't get it yeah to me it's a 2744 02:22:26,240 --> 02:22:22,690 foregone conclusion but it's it's still 2745 02:22:32,060 --> 02:22:26,250 a battle that that we're fighting now 2746 02:22:35,011 --> 02:22:32,070 what about bringing in a university and 2747 02:22:39,210 --> 02:22:35,021 not only looking for the gravesite but 2748 02:22:40,950 --> 02:22:39,220 further looking into the cave and and 2749 02:22:44,870 --> 02:22:40,960 the dating on the cave the date that's 2750 02:22:48,511 --> 02:22:44,880 above the cave you know bringing in 2751 02:22:52,380 --> 02:22:48,521 archaeologists I you know I we have we 2752 02:22:55,830 --> 02:22:52,390 have an archaeologist Haley Haley Ramm 2753 02:22:57,750 --> 02:22:55,840 she is the one that is you know she's 2754 02:23:00,720 --> 02:22:57,760 the one that's going to be the the 2755 02:23:03,330 --> 02:23:00,730 person in charge of this site I mean 2756 02:23:05,580 --> 02:23:03,340 she's been over there twice and walked 2757 02:23:08,340 --> 02:23:05,590 the grounds and crawled in the K I mean 2758 02:23:10,860 --> 02:23:08,350 she crawled inside one of the caves and 2759 02:23:14,820 --> 02:23:10,870 literally was up to her knees just about 2760 02:23:16,230 --> 02:23:14,830 in mud so we have one person right now 2761 02:23:18,540 --> 02:23:16,240 but we're gonna have to get some other 2762 02:23:21,270 --> 02:23:18,550 people involved here at some point but 2763 02:23:24,751 --> 02:23:21,280 I'm gonna let her make that call and as 2764 02:23:26,551 --> 02:23:24,761 far as working on the stones themselves 2765 02:23:30,241 --> 02:23:26,561 I would love to bring in people but they 2766 02:23:32,100 --> 02:23:30,251 have to be serious and they have to do 2767 02:23:34,831 --> 02:23:32,110 the job in a professional manner it 2768 02:23:36,781 --> 02:23:34,841 can't be some you know you know cocky 2769 02:23:38,551 --> 02:23:36,791 jerk that comes in and takes one look 2770 02:23:41,640 --> 02:23:38,561 and goes all this is fake because I've 2771 02:23:43,831 --> 02:23:41,650 seen this happen yeah and you know and 2772 02:23:46,531 --> 02:23:43,841 and you know at first blush you know 2773 02:23:49,020 --> 02:23:46,541 some people have said well Jesus this 2774 02:23:51,661 --> 02:23:49,030 isn't you know pre-columbian so why are 2775 02:23:53,821 --> 02:23:51,671 you interested well first of all I think 2776 02:23:56,430 --> 02:23:53,831 it's a fantastic story it doesn't matter 2777 02:23:58,381 --> 02:23:56,440 what the time period is but in fact it 2778 02:24:00,680 --> 02:23:58,391 looks like we do have connections that 2779 02:24:04,430 --> 02:24:00,690 push it back to pre-columbian times and 2780 02:24:07,051 --> 02:24:04,440 may give strong support to things like 2781 02:24:09,390 --> 02:24:07,061 the Tucson led artifacts that I've 2782 02:24:11,821 --> 02:24:09,400 argued for years are absolutely 2783 02:24:14,491 --> 02:24:11,831 pre-columbian and authentic my god they 2784 02:24:16,470 --> 02:24:14,501 were found in a pristine archeological 2785 02:24:19,081 --> 02:24:16,480 undisturbed context I mean what more do 2786 02:24:21,121 --> 02:24:19,091 you want and then you've got the Hebrew 2787 02:24:24,060 --> 02:24:21,131 rune stone I've studied that as well I 2788 02:24:26,461 --> 02:24:24,070 see no reason that that this thing is a 2789 02:24:29,491 --> 02:24:26,471 modern hoax at all in fact it dates back 2790 02:24:31,411 --> 02:24:29,501 over 200 years great at the time of 2791 02:24:33,751 --> 02:24:31,421 settlement it was seen and the natives 2792 02:24:37,111 --> 02:24:33,761 talked about it always being there at 2793 02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:37,121 that time so what is the connection with 2794 02:24:42,841 --> 02:24:39,610 these stones with those stones to me 2795 02:24:44,430 --> 02:24:42,851 that's our pre-columbian connection and 2796 02:24:48,961 --> 02:24:44,440 I think maybe we're talking about a 2797 02:24:51,930 --> 02:24:48,971 lineage of a group of people a group of 2798 02:24:56,041 --> 02:24:51,940 families more likely that passed this 2799 02:24:58,201 --> 02:24:56,051 knowledge down and the secret was there 2800 02:25:02,161 --> 02:24:58,211 is a there is a land far to the west 2801 02:25:04,941 --> 02:25:02,171 where you can live and you can live in 2802 02:25:07,291 --> 02:25:04,951 freedom and you can practice your faith 2803 02:25:09,691 --> 02:25:07,301 without persecution that there are 2804 02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:09,701 people there who will welcome you if you 2805 02:25:15,810 --> 02:25:12,610 treat them the way you want to be 2806 02:25:18,031 --> 02:25:15,820 treated and isn't that the basis upon 2807 02:25:20,551 --> 02:25:18,041 which this nation was founded it's the 2808 02:25:24,031 --> 02:25:20,561 same thing and I think what the moral of 2809 02:25:26,161 --> 02:25:24,041 the story is is that people from Europe 2810 02:25:28,501 --> 02:25:26,171 and and other places and in the 2811 02:25:31,411 --> 02:25:28,511 Mediterranean region in the in the East 2812 02:25:34,441 --> 02:25:31,421 have been coming to the new world for 2813 02:25:36,340 --> 02:25:34,451 millennia to escape persecution where 2814 02:25:40,449 --> 02:25:36,350 they could live free with 2815 02:25:42,670 --> 02:25:40,459 who embrace them as long as they treated 2816 02:25:44,800 --> 02:25:42,680 them with dignity and respect 2817 02:25:46,420 --> 02:25:44,810 I think that's I think at the end of the 2818 02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:46,430 day that's what the lesson is gonna be 2819 02:25:54,729 --> 02:25:51,770 yeah and I have got I've got a few 2820 02:25:57,279 --> 02:25:54,739 people that you know you should probably 2821 02:26:01,079 --> 02:25:57,289 pull into the circle I'll talk to you 2822 02:26:04,380 --> 02:26:01,089 about all of them off of the air but 2823 02:26:07,029 --> 02:26:04,390 could lend their expertise and their 2824 02:26:10,719 --> 02:26:07,039 extensive knowledge into into history 2825 02:26:13,090 --> 02:26:10,729 with these with these types of languages 2826 02:26:18,579 --> 02:26:13,100 artifacts and of course the cosmology 2827 02:26:21,189 --> 02:26:18,589 and the historical context of all of 2828 02:26:24,069 --> 02:26:21,199 this right it's very very interesting 2829 02:26:28,090 --> 02:26:24,079 Scott once again man 2830 02:26:31,899 --> 02:26:28,100 I just have to thank you we'll be taking 2831 02:26:33,939 --> 02:26:31,909 this conversation again over to coast to 2832 02:26:36,969 --> 02:26:33,949 coast on Saturday night and I'm very 2833 02:26:40,149 --> 02:26:36,979 excited about the rest of the country in 2834 02:26:41,800 --> 02:26:40,159 the world of finding out about what you 2835 02:26:44,710 --> 02:26:41,810 are once again bringing out to the 2836 02:26:46,329 --> 02:26:44,720 public thank you so much oh hey Jimmy 2837 02:26:48,460 --> 02:26:46,339 this is fun I feel like we're just 2838 02:26:51,069 --> 02:26:48,470 getting started I want to keep going but 2839 02:26:54,090 --> 02:26:51,079 let's continue it on Saturday night and 2840 02:26:56,409 --> 02:26:54,100 celebrate the 4th and grand style and 2841 02:27:01,199 --> 02:26:56,419 thanks again for having me man this has 2842 02:27:03,579 --> 02:27:01,209 been a lot of fun and get some rest 2843 02:27:05,769 --> 02:27:03,589 get some rest and I'm just gonna let 2844 02:27:07,800 --> 02:27:05,779 everybody know this is this is the deal 2845 02:27:09,849 --> 02:27:07,810 Scott just got back from this trip 2846 02:27:12,369 --> 02:27:09,859 immediately came on fade to black 2847 02:27:14,529 --> 02:27:12,379 tomorrow he's jumping on a jet plane 2848 02:27:16,689 --> 02:27:14,539 he's heading out to film a television 2849 02:27:18,579 --> 02:27:16,699 show we don't need to discuss that we'll 2850 02:27:20,769 --> 02:27:18,589 talk about that later he's got to do 2851 02:27:23,380 --> 02:27:20,779 that then he's gonna fly back on the 2852 02:27:27,880 --> 02:27:23,390 fourth of July and then back on the 2853 02:27:28,569 --> 02:27:27,890 coast to coast that evening get some 2854 02:27:32,319 --> 02:27:28,579 rest 2855 02:27:34,059 --> 02:27:32,329 Scott you are a very busy man and I want 2856 02:27:37,420 --> 02:27:34,069 to thank you for taking the time tonight 2857 02:27:39,729 --> 02:27:37,430 and and exposing this audience to this 2858 02:27:41,739 --> 02:27:39,739 and will continue everything on the 4th 2859 02:27:43,929 --> 02:27:41,749 of July and we'll celebrate together 2860 02:27:46,239 --> 02:27:43,939 this Saturday thank you so much my 2861 02:27:47,111 --> 02:27:46,249 friend all right well thank you Jimmy I 2862 02:27:49,091 --> 02:27:47,121 look forward to 2863 02:27:51,970 --> 02:27:49,101 and thanks for everybody who tuned in no 2864 02:27:55,591 --> 02:27:51,980 I give my best to Jann okay okay we'll 2865 02:27:58,241 --> 02:27:55,601 talk to you already Scott Wolter 2866 02:28:00,220 --> 02:27:58,251 absolutely incredible that's that's 2867 02:28:03,161 --> 02:28:00,230 that's all I've got I've got nothing 2868 02:28:05,411 --> 02:28:03,171 else I am going to take a quick break I 2869 02:28:06,850 --> 02:28:05,421 want to thank Scott and like I said 2870 02:28:09,611 --> 02:28:06,860 we're gonna go ahead and continue all of 2871 02:28:11,741 --> 02:28:09,621 this Scott is going to be a very very 2872 02:28:16,031 --> 02:28:11,751 very already been busy over the last 2873 02:28:18,251 --> 02:28:16,041 couple of weeks and he will be back with 2874 02:28:19,211 --> 02:28:18,261 us immediately Saturday night on coast 2875 02:28:22,481 --> 02:28:19,221 to coast and we'll take everything 2876 02:28:24,371 --> 02:28:22,491 further I'm your host Jimmy Church I'm 2877 02:28:28,120 --> 02:28:24,381 gonna break and I'll come back and take 2878 02:28:42,551 --> 02:28:28,130 your phone calls stay with me 2879 02:28:46,370 --> 02:28:42,561 [Music] 2880 02:28:51,261 --> 02:28:46,380 you are listen to my boy Jimmy Church on 2881 02:28:54,740 --> 02:28:51,271 Jimmy Church radio calm despite popular 2882 02:29:02,450 --> 02:28:54,750 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now seven four 2953 02:32:43,899 --> 02:32:38,930 seven two two eight two zero five one 2954 02:32:48,550 --> 02:32:43,909 and I know I know you guys looked at all 2955 02:32:50,139 --> 02:32:48,560 the images and and you've checked all of 2956 02:32:51,699 --> 02:32:50,149 this out I want to know what you think 2957 02:32:54,429 --> 02:32:51,709 when you're looking at this stuff I mean 2958 02:32:55,389 --> 02:32:54,439 how how incredible is it it's just 2959 02:32:58,750 --> 02:32:55,399 totally amazing 2960 02:33:01,029 --> 02:32:58,760 and you know I know what's going through 2961 02:33:03,849 --> 02:33:01,039 my mind right now I want to know what's 2962 02:33:08,739 --> 02:33:03,859 going through yours seven four seven two 2963 02:33:12,040 --> 02:33:08,749 two eight two zero five one one of the 2964 02:33:15,580 --> 02:33:12,050 points that I made to Scott there at the 2965 02:33:17,949 --> 02:33:15,590 end is that we looked at he didn't even 2966 02:33:20,109 --> 02:33:17,959 mention the Kensington Runestone when he 2967 02:33:24,340 --> 02:33:20,119 listed he's talking about you know bad 2968 02:33:28,349 --> 02:33:24,350 Creek and and of course Tucson and the 2969 02:33:32,439 --> 02:33:28,359 lead artifacts which are all incredible 2970 02:33:35,050 --> 02:33:32,449 but the you know it's Oklahoma its Texas 2971 02:33:40,019 --> 02:33:35,060 it's Arizona it's Colorado it's it's 2972 02:33:46,769 --> 02:33:40,029 Florida it's Pennsylvania of course 2973 02:33:50,439 --> 02:33:46,779 Massachusetts Minnesota Michigan where 2974 02:33:54,210 --> 02:33:50,449 these artifacts Canada by the way too as 2975 02:34:00,550 --> 02:33:54,220 well these artifacts have been piling up 2976 02:34:02,529 --> 02:34:00,560 piling up now some of them not the ones 2977 02:34:05,889 --> 02:34:02,539 that I've just listed now but other 2978 02:34:09,609 --> 02:34:05,899 things in the past have been deliberate 2979 02:34:10,719 --> 02:34:09,619 hoaxes where you had I lit up incense 2980 02:34:13,540 --> 02:34:10,729 here in the bunker 2981 02:34:17,979 --> 02:34:13,550 that's what's a floating by by the way 2982 02:34:19,210 --> 02:34:17,989 if you see that on the camera is some 2983 02:34:22,120 --> 02:34:19,220 some things in the past have been 2984 02:34:23,949 --> 02:34:22,130 deliberate hoaxes and and I've watched 2985 02:34:25,660 --> 02:34:23,959 some pretty funny documentaries and 2986 02:34:28,540 --> 02:34:25,670 incredible documentaries or these 2987 02:34:30,250 --> 02:34:28,550 attempts were made that's not what we're 2988 02:34:34,239 --> 02:34:30,260 talking about here now we're in a whole 2989 02:34:38,380 --> 02:34:34,249 different type of situation but when we 2990 02:34:41,979 --> 02:34:38,390 look at the Kensington Runestone the bat 2991 02:34:43,219 --> 02:34:41,989 Creek stone to this day every time I 2992 02:34:50,450 --> 02:34:43,229 look at that 2993 02:34:52,370 --> 02:34:50,460 you know the when is academia going to 2994 02:34:53,179 --> 02:34:52,380 have a shift where they're gonna go okay 2995 02:34:56,900 --> 02:34:53,189 all right 2996 02:35:00,980 --> 02:34:56,910 okay now we have to start taking this 2997 02:35:04,820 --> 02:35:00,990 stuff seriously there there is enough 2998 02:35:07,310 --> 02:35:04,830 evidence here that clearly Columbus 2999 02:35:10,420 --> 02:35:07,320 wasn't the first that's that's the first 3000 02:35:13,400 --> 02:35:10,430 indication this situation with Texas 3001 02:35:16,040 --> 02:35:13,410 it's different where we have dates now 3002 02:35:18,620 --> 02:35:16,050 there's a date 1501 above the cave Dora 3003 02:35:20,120 --> 02:35:18,630 that's when somebody carved a date that 3004 02:35:25,160 --> 02:35:20,130 doesn't mean that somebody wasn't at 3005 02:35:30,380 --> 02:35:25,170 that cave before okay we need to state 3006 02:35:33,050 --> 02:35:30,390 that clearly but Columbus wasn't the 3007 02:35:37,070 --> 02:35:33,060 first and we know the Vikings were 3008 02:35:41,140 --> 02:35:37,080 creeping across from from Greenland 3009 02:35:46,280 --> 02:35:41,150 right and this is this is this is fact 3010 02:35:49,130 --> 02:35:46,290 this is fact you know how far in and how 3011 02:35:52,330 --> 02:35:49,140 far south right did they get to the 3012 02:35:56,420 --> 02:35:52,340 United States it's it's absolutely 3013 02:36:02,330 --> 02:35:56,430 incredible so seven four seven two two 3014 02:36:05,210 --> 02:36:02,340 eight two zero five one and Varion or us 3015 02:36:07,760 --> 02:36:05,220 okay seven four seven two two eight two 3016 02:36:12,700 --> 02:36:07,770 zero five one but how much evidence has 3017 02:36:15,860 --> 02:36:12,710 to be brought forward I mean how much I 3018 02:36:18,080 --> 02:36:15,870 want to I want to bring in some of the 3019 02:36:21,560 --> 02:36:18,090 leading scholars that I know to take a 3020 02:36:22,520 --> 02:36:21,570 look at this and and and get some 3021 02:36:27,679 --> 02:36:22,530 opinions here 3022 02:36:30,040 --> 02:36:27,689 I think I'm not I'm not some art 3023 02:36:33,410 --> 02:36:30,050 historian where I'm able to look at this 3024 02:36:38,390 --> 02:36:33,420 and say things specifically but when I 3025 02:36:41,860 --> 02:36:38,400 look at the skull image number six that 3026 02:36:45,260 --> 02:36:41,870 was posted I think it was six that skull 3027 02:36:53,350 --> 02:36:45,270 looks yes somebody just said Spanish oh 3028 02:36:56,751 --> 02:36:53,360 that's Eric a you know I said Caribbean 3029 02:36:59,600 --> 02:36:56,761 but it feels 3030 02:37:03,201 --> 02:36:59,610 it feels like there's some lineage here 3031 02:37:06,621 --> 02:37:03,211 that is traceable it's too stylized and 3032 02:37:10,850 --> 02:37:06,631 it's too beautiful yeah there's there's 3033 02:37:13,821 --> 02:37:10,860 got to be we need somebody to to lay 3034 02:37:18,671 --> 02:37:13,831 their eyes on this and and to look at it 3035 02:37:22,581 --> 02:37:18,681 it feels yes Spanish might be right 3036 02:37:26,470 --> 02:37:22,591 Spanish might be right I agree with you 3037 02:37:31,701 --> 02:37:26,480 there Eric and this is this is the other 3038 02:37:37,371 --> 02:37:31,711 trip on this I'm just gonna say it when 3039 02:37:42,191 --> 02:37:37,381 you look at that date of 1760 that 3040 02:37:44,301 --> 02:37:42,201 throws a whole nother 3041 02:37:46,701 --> 02:37:44,311 and-and-and-and the type of art that is 3042 02:37:48,291 --> 02:37:46,711 there it's not like the other artwork 3043 02:37:52,241 --> 02:37:48,301 that is on the other stones that are 3044 02:37:55,341 --> 02:37:52,251 clearly older that stone is different 3045 02:37:57,831 --> 02:37:55,351 and it's kind of 1760 the other 3046 02:37:59,871 --> 02:37:57,841 information that is on the stone that 3047 02:38:02,301 --> 02:37:59,881 needs to be deciphered that needs to be 3048 02:38:04,850 --> 02:38:02,311 figured out that MX 107 is interesting 3049 02:38:10,301 --> 02:38:04,860 why is that G right there in the middle 3050 02:38:14,541 --> 02:38:10,311 of the stone i I don't know but 1760 it 3051 02:38:17,991 --> 02:38:14,551 throws everything and in other words if 3052 02:38:20,180 --> 02:38:18,001 somebody was doing a hoax right that 3053 02:38:22,011 --> 02:38:20,190 these stones are just created somewhere 3054 02:38:24,470 --> 02:38:22,021 and they were put in the cave and and 3055 02:38:26,901 --> 02:38:24,480 there's some fantastic story that is 3056 02:38:30,220 --> 02:38:26,911 tied to it right okay okay all right 3057 02:38:36,921 --> 02:38:30,230 all right I'll buy into that why have a 3058 02:38:40,220 --> 02:38:36,931 1760 stone in this cave it would throw 3059 02:38:44,481 --> 02:38:40,230 everything off so to me it's the exact 3060 02:38:45,881 --> 02:38:44,491 opposite it adds to the legitimacy of 3061 02:38:52,131 --> 02:38:45,891 the situation 3062 02:38:54,350 --> 02:38:52,141 no no professional hoaxer no OG hoaxer 3063 02:38:57,921 --> 02:38:54,360 that's worth his weight in the hoaxing 3064 02:39:00,411 --> 02:38:57,931 community would blow everything with 3065 02:39:02,390 --> 02:39:00,421 something that throws everything off and 3066 02:39:05,841 --> 02:39:02,400 throws the dating off you get what I'm 3067 02:39:08,270 --> 02:39:05,851 saying here it's it just it just 3068 02:39:10,760 --> 02:39:08,280 wouldn't happen that way that's the 3069 02:39:13,819 --> 02:39:10,770 stone you don't put in the 3070 02:39:15,620 --> 02:39:13,829 put that in another cave but that's 3071 02:39:18,620 --> 02:39:15,630 somewhere else take that thing to 3072 02:39:21,830 --> 02:39:18,630 Alabama drop it on the beach you know 3073 02:39:23,779 --> 02:39:21,840 and and leave it but you don't put it in 3074 02:39:28,399 --> 02:39:23,789 this cave with this with this other 3075 02:39:33,769 --> 02:39:28,409 stuff very interesting that the that the 3076 02:39:38,059 --> 02:39:33,779 Hebrew here is dateable because of the 3077 02:39:40,580 --> 02:39:38,069 vowels the vowel indicators very 3078 02:39:43,340 --> 02:39:40,590 interesting somebody here isn't trying 3079 02:39:45,139 --> 02:39:43,350 to push this thing back right and this 3080 02:39:50,210 --> 02:39:45,149 is what's got it said try to push this 3081 02:39:58,309 --> 02:39:50,220 thing back to 1,000 BC you know getting 3082 02:40:01,189 --> 02:39:58,319 back to the the Hebrew Bible no no very 3083 02:40:04,760 --> 02:40:01,199 interesting everything is dateable now I 3084 02:40:08,540 --> 02:40:04,770 didn't know anything about Columbus 3085 02:40:10,429 --> 02:40:08,550 possibly being Jewish yeah now somebody 3086 02:40:13,639 --> 02:40:10,439 just posted this I wish it was a bigger 3087 02:40:14,960 --> 02:40:13,649 image this is from David wingman thank 3088 02:40:18,920 --> 02:40:14,970 you it's the bat creats 3089 02:40:23,029 --> 02:40:18,930 the bat creek stone still one of the 3090 02:40:26,510 --> 02:40:23,039 most incredible pieces here ever to be 3091 02:40:28,609 --> 02:40:26,520 found in the United States okay seven 3092 02:40:33,590 --> 02:40:28,619 four seven two two eight two zero five 3093 02:40:35,239 --> 02:40:33,600 one and I'm just gonna say it the the 3094 02:40:38,389 --> 02:40:35,249 calls that run hold I don't know if 3095 02:40:41,689 --> 02:40:38,399 everybody hung up or what's going on 3096 02:40:45,229 --> 02:40:41,699 there but let's let's take another crack 3097 02:40:49,189 --> 02:40:45,239 at at seven four seven two two eight two 3098 02:40:52,519 --> 02:40:49,199 zero five one hi you're live on fade to 3099 02:40:53,599 --> 02:40:52,529 black who's calling hey this is Mike I'm 3100 02:40:55,460 --> 02:40:53,609 from Texas 3101 02:40:59,929 --> 02:40:55,470 I've been kind of synced up to you all 3102 02:41:04,729 --> 02:40:59,939 evening those are all those were all 3103 02:41:09,080 --> 02:41:04,739 Latin Latin words and Roman numerals 3104 02:41:12,889 --> 02:41:09,090 there and I'm from Houston and I've been 3105 02:41:15,859 --> 02:41:12,899 all over Texas so I know that those are 3106 02:41:22,489 --> 02:41:15,869 all from from the missions all around 3107 02:41:24,100 --> 02:41:22,499 Texas I've seen very similar stones to 3108 02:41:28,400 --> 02:41:24,110 those those one of those are 3109 02:41:30,410 --> 02:41:28,410 those are all from the priest say that 3110 02:41:33,050 --> 02:41:30,420 okay Mike say that again very 3111 02:41:35,210 --> 02:41:33,060 interesting okay so you're saying 3112 02:41:39,440 --> 02:41:35,220 they're from the Catholic missions that 3113 02:41:42,110 --> 02:41:39,450 are around Texas correct like the Alamo 3114 02:41:46,210 --> 02:41:42,120 the Alamo was actually close to where he 3115 02:41:54,460 --> 02:41:46,220 was with the there's a large cave system 3116 02:42:00,500 --> 02:41:54,470 that is between San Antonio and and 3117 02:42:02,000 --> 02:42:00,510 Austin okay let me ask you this Mike it 3118 02:42:07,180 --> 02:42:02,010 seems like you have a little information 3119 02:42:10,250 --> 02:42:07,190 here that that we need to hear why the 3120 02:42:14,870 --> 02:42:10,260 Egyptian element and why the Hebrew 3121 02:42:18,080 --> 02:42:14,880 element so I don't know about the 3122 02:42:22,640 --> 02:42:18,090 Egyptian but the Hebrew could have been 3123 02:42:25,190 --> 02:42:22,650 because they they they also had people 3124 02:42:33,500 --> 02:42:25,200 come over with him that traveled with 3125 02:42:40,460 --> 02:42:33,510 them that were interesting interesting 3126 02:42:42,380 --> 02:42:40,470 and what about I could see we just lost 3127 02:42:45,590 --> 02:42:42,390 Mike and it sounded like he was 3128 02:42:46,460 --> 02:42:45,600 traveling in his car so think the phone 3129 02:42:50,240 --> 02:42:46,470 got cut off 3130 02:42:54,410 --> 02:42:50,250 but in saying something like that having 3131 02:43:01,970 --> 02:42:54,420 the all-seeing eye and what looks like a 3132 02:43:04,360 --> 02:43:01,980 pyramid with Hebrew and I don't know and 3133 02:43:06,680 --> 02:43:04,370 that's that's like five or six scripts 3134 02:43:08,630 --> 02:43:06,690 coming down with the Rays of the Sun I 3135 02:43:10,790 --> 02:43:08,640 don't see the Catholic or the mission 3136 02:43:12,620 --> 02:43:10,800 connection there it's very interesting 3137 02:43:20,810 --> 02:43:12,630 though hi you're live on fade to black 3138 02:43:25,370 --> 02:43:20,820 who's calling hi who's this Michael from 3139 02:43:27,650 --> 02:43:25,380 TV Michael from Peavy how are you good 3140 02:43:32,320 --> 02:43:27,660 brother you know I just wanted to say 3141 02:43:37,430 --> 02:43:36,650 we thought that these rocks were were 3142 02:43:40,581 --> 02:43:37,440 put 3143 02:43:45,020 --> 02:43:40,591 way for kind of historical 3144 02:43:47,180 --> 02:43:45,030 categorization and safety and I think 3145 02:43:50,680 --> 02:43:47,190 the lines means something different than 3146 02:43:55,791 --> 02:43:50,690 what you guys are and what's that I I 3147 02:43:59,240 --> 02:43:55,801 actually think that a line show efforts 3148 02:44:02,900 --> 02:43:59,250 of transformation on three different 3149 02:44:05,360 --> 02:44:02,910 types of individuals yes I know I saw 3150 02:44:07,551 --> 02:44:05,370 that no I see that okay so what where 3151 02:44:11,211 --> 02:44:07,561 are you going eyes you know I thought 3152 02:44:16,430 --> 02:44:11,221 that too because the three the three 3153 02:44:19,450 --> 02:44:16,440 human figures are not the same no I 3154 02:44:22,161 --> 02:44:19,460 actually think it's man woman and child 3155 02:44:25,190 --> 02:44:22,171 you think it's man woman and child let 3156 02:44:29,270 --> 02:44:25,200 me go back in and and look at the images 3157 02:44:32,780 --> 02:44:29,280 again and why would you say it's a man 3158 02:44:37,810 --> 02:44:32,790 woman and child well because many years 3159 02:44:41,740 --> 02:44:37,820 ago when I was kind of led to a certain 3160 02:44:48,560 --> 02:44:41,750 petroglyph I guess you could call it I 3161 02:44:51,230 --> 02:44:48,570 saw a series of petroglyphs that were 3162 02:44:54,381 --> 02:44:51,240 separated by lines vertically and 3163 02:44:57,320 --> 02:44:54,391 horizontally and what I finally after 3164 02:45:01,780 --> 02:44:57,330 looking over and over and over again I 3165 02:45:05,301 --> 02:45:01,790 believe it was how animals were 3166 02:45:08,980 --> 02:45:05,311 experimented on other animals and then 3167 02:45:16,190 --> 02:45:08,990 involved with humans to make mutations 3168 02:45:20,570 --> 02:45:16,200 what I see here is a series of types of 3169 02:45:24,831 --> 02:45:20,580 energies and maybe chromosomal changes 3170 02:45:29,600 --> 02:45:24,841 that are being put forth and almost like 3171 02:45:34,850 --> 02:45:29,610 a photon type of transfer and bear with 3172 02:45:37,730 --> 02:45:34,860 me but I think it shows the series of 3173 02:45:41,720 --> 02:45:37,740 changes that were attempted to be made 3174 02:45:45,890 --> 02:45:41,730 that gave everybody their individuality 3175 02:45:49,100 --> 02:45:45,900 as far as color and speech and size and 3176 02:45:51,860 --> 02:45:49,110 shape according to the geographical 3177 02:45:58,130 --> 02:45:51,870 location do you see where I'm going with 3178 02:46:02,360 --> 02:45:58,140 I do I do and that's why I think it's so 3179 02:46:05,780 --> 02:46:02,370 important to get as many eyes on this as 3180 02:46:12,139 --> 02:46:05,790 possible as as many brains as possible 3181 02:46:13,880 --> 02:46:12,149 there this this all-seeing eye that's 3182 02:46:16,730 --> 02:46:13,890 what we're calling it inside of a 3183 02:46:19,880 --> 02:46:16,740 pyramid because the all-seeing eye with 3184 02:46:23,750 --> 02:46:19,890 the Rays coming down that's inside of a 3185 02:46:27,740 --> 02:46:23,760 triangle and then you have what looks 3186 02:46:29,780 --> 02:46:27,750 like the entrance and exit of you know 3187 02:46:33,410 --> 02:46:29,790 on the far left and on the far right 3188 02:46:39,020 --> 02:46:33,420 almost like lanes of a highway or road a 3189 02:46:41,809 --> 02:46:39,030 showing direction but entering it or all 3190 02:46:44,599 --> 02:46:41,819 of those there's a language there and I 3191 02:46:47,300 --> 02:46:44,609 don't know if it's numbers or what above 3192 02:46:50,059 --> 02:46:47,310 the first on the left the first human 3193 02:46:53,510 --> 02:46:50,069 figure on the left which is holding 3194 02:46:56,150 --> 02:46:53,520 something in its in its left hand it's 3195 02:46:58,760 --> 02:46:56,160 going up I think it's going I could be 3196 02:47:02,780 --> 02:46:58,770 wrong but it looks like it's going up 3197 02:47:05,690 --> 02:47:02,790 the second one is enclosed in the Ray 3198 02:47:08,450 --> 02:47:05,700 but that's two sets of lines above it 3199 02:47:11,090 --> 02:47:08,460 that are now vertical the third column 3200 02:47:16,760 --> 02:47:11,100 is Egyptian hieroglyphics 3201 02:47:19,730 --> 02:47:16,770 the the fourth column is I don't know I 3202 02:47:22,900 --> 02:47:19,740 think it's number Scott says that sure 3203 02:47:25,040 --> 02:47:22,910 you could not show you the series of 3204 02:47:26,840 --> 02:47:25,050 experimentations on which people they 3205 02:47:29,630 --> 02:47:26,850 were going forward it could be it could 3206 02:47:33,559 --> 02:47:29,640 be bad I'm open to anything Mike I I 3207 02:47:36,760 --> 02:47:33,569 have no idea I have no idea I really 3208 02:47:41,960 --> 02:47:36,770 don't clearly there's a there is 3209 02:47:44,030 --> 02:47:41,970 something that is being said there 3210 02:47:46,309 --> 02:47:44,040 there's something being said well and 3211 02:47:49,370 --> 02:47:46,319 then on the outside of this we have the 3212 02:47:51,679 --> 02:47:49,380 fish we have the other glyphs that are 3213 02:47:54,260 --> 02:47:51,689 above it on the right we have the bull 3214 02:47:57,170 --> 02:47:54,270 the dancing bull we have the eight 3215 02:48:00,080 --> 02:47:57,180 pointed star clearly we have two 3216 02:48:02,450 --> 02:48:00,090 Egyptian feathers a side-by-side that is 3217 02:48:02,950 --> 02:48:02,460 hieroglyphics Jim that's what I was 3218 02:48:04,330 --> 02:48:02,960 saying 3219 02:48:07,630 --> 02:48:04,340 when I was looking at the other 3220 02:48:10,840 --> 02:48:07,640 petroglyphs is that they tried mutations 3221 02:48:12,820 --> 02:48:10,850 with certain different species and 3222 02:48:17,260 --> 02:48:12,830 that's why you get different petroglyphs 3223 02:48:21,010 --> 02:48:17,270 with ant people bull people lizard 3224 02:48:22,540 --> 02:48:21,020 people hmm you know what I mean you know 3225 02:48:25,780 --> 02:48:22,550 I'm going with this maybe it's just a 3226 02:48:28,240 --> 02:48:25,790 series of documentation on the series of 3227 02:48:30,670 --> 02:48:28,250 attempts to trying to find the right 3228 02:48:33,219 --> 02:48:30,680 hybrid hey you know what I was thinking 3229 02:48:35,260 --> 02:48:33,229 and it's and I want to thank you for the 3230 02:48:38,560 --> 02:48:35,270 phone call and column number one over on 3231 02:48:41,260 --> 02:48:38,570 the left and and I looked at both 3232 02:48:45,460 --> 02:48:41,270 versions of the picture and that kind of 3233 02:48:47,020 --> 02:48:45,470 looks like DNA above his head Mike thank 3234 02:48:48,460 --> 02:48:47,030 you for the phone call man we'll see you 3235 02:48:52,180 --> 02:48:48,470 tomorrow night right here for failure 3236 02:48:54,610 --> 02:48:52,190 night JC gobekli tepe and thank you very 3237 02:48:57,430 --> 02:48:54,620 much for always being the leader of our 3238 02:48:59,320 --> 02:48:57,440 society and we appreciate you and Rita 3239 02:49:01,620 --> 02:48:59,330 more than you'll ever know thank you so 3240 02:49:03,010 --> 02:49:01,630 much Mike behave and be well my friend 3241 02:49:06,000 --> 02:49:03,020 take care 3242 02:49:13,780 --> 02:49:06,010 Gobekli Tepe it's a great phone call 3243 02:49:17,560 --> 02:49:13,790 yeah there is clearly information here I 3244 02:49:20,050 --> 02:49:17,570 don't know what it is that third column 3245 02:49:25,540 --> 02:49:20,060 is hieroglyphics man that's a knock that 3246 02:49:28,960 --> 02:49:25,550 is a snake clearly Egyptian and then the 3247 02:49:31,510 --> 02:49:28,970 two feathers I was telling read about 3248 02:49:34,420 --> 02:49:31,520 this the other day of taking this course 3249 02:49:40,300 --> 02:49:34,430 on how to read and write hieroglyphics 3250 02:49:42,690 --> 02:49:40,310 and and how to draw feathers and I'm 3251 02:49:45,550 --> 02:49:42,700 just telling you I see this now from 3252 02:49:47,320 --> 02:49:45,560 anywhere when I when I take a look at it 3253 02:49:52,330 --> 02:49:47,330 so go back to the phones how you live on 3254 02:49:54,300 --> 02:49:52,340 fade to black who's calling hey Jack hey 3255 02:49:56,320 --> 02:49:54,310 Jack how are you were you calling from 3256 02:49:58,540 --> 02:49:56,330 I'm good I'm calling it from a 3257 02:50:04,690 --> 02:49:58,550 Birmingham Alabama I don't want you to 3258 02:50:08,469 --> 02:50:04,700 bring that thing too you could find it 3259 02:50:13,480 --> 02:50:08,479 and and go check this out everybody you 3260 02:50:16,050 --> 02:50:13,490 would be the one so what do you think 3261 02:50:18,820 --> 02:50:16,060 yeah think is going on here 3262 02:50:20,530 --> 02:50:18,830 well I just know you know I mean Hebrew 3263 02:50:23,950 --> 02:50:20,540 and all these other languages are 3264 02:50:26,380 --> 02:50:23,960 pictographic and I just wonder why you 3265 02:50:27,790 --> 02:50:26,390 know like a a is an ox and I mean or is 3266 02:50:30,700 --> 02:50:27,800 it really they're just taking pictures 3267 02:50:32,110 --> 02:50:30,710 or you know is like they're telling like 3268 02:50:34,660 --> 02:50:32,120 II was mentioned early like an energy 3269 02:50:36,340 --> 02:50:34,670 exchange or they trying to explain so 3270 02:50:39,370 --> 02:50:36,350 because I mean with Hebrew I mean that's 3271 02:50:43,540 --> 02:50:39,380 the the what do you call it the occult 3272 02:50:45,580 --> 02:50:43,550 books Zohar where that God breathed 3273 02:50:47,200 --> 02:50:45,590 these letters so I mean now we're saying 3274 02:50:49,240 --> 02:50:47,210 it's ox and then they're saying well 3275 02:50:51,370 --> 02:50:49,250 it's there's really something more to it 3276 02:50:53,620 --> 02:50:51,380 so I mean what are they trying to 3277 02:50:57,100 --> 02:50:53,630 describe in any type of pictographic 3278 02:50:57,670 --> 02:50:57,110 language yeah you know see that's the 3279 02:51:01,889 --> 02:50:57,680 thing 3280 02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:01,899 back then it was simple right they knew 3281 02:51:09,510 --> 02:51:07,520 for us today it could be way off you 3282 02:51:12,400 --> 02:51:09,520 know you know we're looking at a bull 3283 02:51:15,969 --> 02:51:12,410 really we think we're looking at an eye 3284 02:51:19,469 --> 02:51:15,979 with rays of light coming down you know 3285 02:51:22,389 --> 02:51:19,479 it won't be totally we could be way off 3286 02:51:24,130 --> 02:51:22,399 with all of that you know I don't know 3287 02:51:27,360 --> 02:51:24,140 but what do you what do you think 3288 02:51:29,950 --> 02:51:27,370 ultimately just from what there's 42 3289 02:51:33,820 --> 02:51:29,960 there was about a hundred stones that 3290 02:51:37,179 --> 02:51:33,830 were originally discovered there are 42 3291 02:51:40,150 --> 02:51:37,189 that are served that have survived were 3292 02:51:43,690 --> 02:51:40,160 tonight we looked at five six or seven 3293 02:51:46,929 --> 02:51:43,700 of those stones but what you have seen 3294 02:51:52,000 --> 02:51:46,939 so far what do you think we're looking 3295 02:51:55,030 --> 02:51:52,010 at well I mean it's a like you said 3296 02:51:57,520 --> 02:51:55,040 dated too charred to be date to a 3297 02:52:00,250 --> 02:51:57,530 thousand but it's really with the vowels 3298 02:52:04,210 --> 02:52:00,260 I mean that's that's most definitely not 3299 02:52:05,440 --> 02:52:04,220 a an old part so I mean but you know I 3300 02:52:06,880 --> 02:52:05,450 mean it makes me almost think of you 3301 02:52:09,760 --> 02:52:06,890 know the Mormon then they talk about 3302 02:52:12,010 --> 02:52:09,770 Joseph Smith reformed Egyptian and I 3303 02:52:13,360 --> 02:52:12,020 mean that was all kind of you know he 3304 02:52:14,320 --> 02:52:13,370 made that all up but I mean you know it 3305 02:52:17,110 --> 02:52:14,330 makes you think there's another 3306 02:52:19,179 --> 02:52:17,120 civilization or something you know 3307 02:52:20,980 --> 02:52:19,189 coming around and somewhere with all 3308 02:52:22,510 --> 02:52:20,990 weren't supposed to be or you know 3309 02:52:24,040 --> 02:52:22,520 weren't thought to be and I you know 3310 02:52:28,610 --> 02:52:24,050 there's you Jimmy you know there's so 3311 02:52:30,620 --> 02:52:28,620 much history Smithsonian 3312 02:52:33,380 --> 02:52:30,630 you know fun and things I've never heard 3313 02:52:36,680 --> 02:52:33,390 about Egyptian ruins and the Grand 3314 02:52:40,120 --> 02:52:36,690 Canyon so right I didn't want to bring 3315 02:52:42,530 --> 02:52:40,130 up the Smithsonian again tonight but 3316 02:52:46,670 --> 02:52:42,540 yeah exactly 3317 02:52:48,080 --> 02:52:46,680 so with you and these are the things 3318 02:52:51,560 --> 02:52:48,090 while we're talking about the bat 3319 02:52:53,690 --> 02:52:51,570 creature donor or what's going on here 3320 02:52:55,730 --> 02:52:53,700 and the difference of the Kensington 3321 02:52:59,120 --> 02:52:55,740 Runestone we talked about these are the 3322 02:53:02,450 --> 02:52:59,130 things that Scott and others have 3323 02:53:05,210 --> 02:53:02,460 brought to the public how much of it has 3324 02:53:09,350 --> 02:53:05,220 not seen the light of day 3325 02:53:11,990 --> 02:53:09,360 Smithsonian comes in sweeps it up boxes 3326 02:53:15,020 --> 02:53:12,000 it up puts it in a crate stores it in a 3327 02:53:17,210 --> 02:53:15,030 warehouse drops it off of a ship out 3328 02:53:19,520 --> 02:53:17,220 into the you know and you never you 3329 02:53:21,730 --> 02:53:19,530 never see it again and and and will 3330 02:53:25,670 --> 02:53:21,740 never know and I'm not being facetious 3331 02:53:29,000 --> 02:53:25,680 here I'm just saying well this has gone 3332 02:53:32,150 --> 02:53:29,010 on an awful lot throughout history and 3333 02:53:35,180 --> 02:53:32,160 I'm glad that Scott you know got a hold 3334 02:53:38,060 --> 02:53:35,190 of this stuff and and and not the 3335 02:53:44,240 --> 02:53:38,070 Smithsonian or somebody up because we we 3336 02:53:47,110 --> 02:53:44,250 would have never heard about this have a 3337 02:53:48,830 --> 02:53:47,120 great night we'll see you tomorrow 3338 02:53:53,240 --> 02:53:48,840 it's so funny 3339 02:53:57,801 --> 02:53:53,250 don't don't bring that down you know 3340 02:54:02,960 --> 02:53:57,811 right Rita just sent me that October 3341 02:54:10,810 --> 02:54:02,970 23rd 1760 the first Jewish prayer books 3342 02:54:14,230 --> 02:54:10,820 printed in North America unreal unreal 3343 02:54:18,110 --> 02:54:14,240 unreal coincidence 3344 02:54:21,080 --> 02:54:18,120 that's a weird date that's a weird date 3345 02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:21,090 to have popping out there I don't know I 3346 02:54:29,750 --> 02:54:25,200 and I want to thank Mike from Texas we 3347 02:54:32,060 --> 02:54:29,760 lost his call but bringing up the 3348 02:54:37,130 --> 02:54:32,070 missions I don't know how many are in 3349 02:54:39,530 --> 02:54:37,140 Texas we have missions here we have one 3350 02:54:41,309 --> 02:54:39,540 very close to us here in Burbank the San 3351 02:54:44,729 --> 02:54:41,319 Fernando mission 3352 02:54:48,510 --> 02:54:44,739 which is and how old is that mission 3353 02:54:49,979 --> 02:54:48,520 Rita it's 500 years old and then we have 3354 02:54:54,389 --> 02:54:49,989 them up and down the coast here in 3355 02:54:58,170 --> 02:54:54,399 California there's one in Riverside that 3356 02:55:00,780 --> 02:54:58,180 are very very old I I don't know if 3357 02:55:02,760 --> 02:55:00,790 there's been artifacts you know similar 3358 02:55:05,429 --> 02:55:02,770 to these that have been found there or 3359 02:55:07,620 --> 02:55:05,439 in the vicinity or are on display at the 3360 02:55:10,260 --> 02:55:07,630 missions and I think that is an 3361 02:55:16,349 --> 02:55:10,270 interesting thing to go and look back 3362 02:55:19,200 --> 02:55:16,359 into very interesting I am not familiar 3363 02:55:22,320 --> 02:55:19,210 with that connection now let me say this 3364 02:55:24,420 --> 02:55:22,330 Mike said something interesting that 3365 02:55:26,670 --> 02:55:24,430 hopefully Scott is still listening to 3366 02:55:30,179 --> 02:55:26,680 the show if not I'll bring it up to him 3367 02:55:36,330 --> 02:55:30,189 later that those aren't ruined 3368 02:55:40,260 --> 02:55:36,340 those aren't ruins there that that was a 3369 02:55:42,689 --> 02:55:40,270 did he say a priest identifier he said 3370 02:55:46,349 --> 02:55:42,699 something specific if somebody can 3371 02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:46,359 remind me what he said I want to pass 3372 02:55:55,559 --> 02:55:51,010 that along the Scott and the reason he 3373 02:55:58,800 --> 02:55:55,569 just said I quit yeah I know I'm the 3374 02:56:01,229 --> 02:55:58,810 single proton and Jax echoing empty 3375 02:56:04,019 --> 02:56:01,239 skull Tyler Durden that is that is 3376 02:56:08,429 --> 02:56:04,029 excellent I'm with you on that Rita 3377 02:56:12,149 --> 02:56:08,439 that's from Eric's tip is if anybody 3378 02:56:15,870 --> 02:56:12,159 knows ruin at first sight it's Scott 3379 02:56:18,149 --> 02:56:15,880 Wolter he has been studying that 3380 02:56:20,219 --> 02:56:18,159 Kensington Runestone has been over to 3381 02:56:22,710 --> 02:56:20,229 Scandinavia has dealt with the 3382 02:56:26,660 --> 02:56:22,720 universities over there the deepest 3383 02:56:31,920 --> 02:56:26,670 historians into runic writing and 3384 02:56:38,219 --> 02:56:31,930 symbology as much as anybody and if he 3385 02:56:40,679 --> 02:56:38,229 says it's identical ruin to the stone 3386 02:56:42,660 --> 02:56:40,689 that was brought up in Oklahoma 3387 02:56:45,030 --> 02:56:42,670 he says it's identical I've got to go 3388 02:56:47,700 --> 02:56:45,040 with Scott on that I find that very 3389 02:56:51,059 --> 02:56:47,710 interesting what a great show tonight 3390 02:56:54,250 --> 02:56:51,069 and I want to say this before I sign off 3391 02:56:56,349 --> 02:56:54,260 I deliberately instead of 3392 02:56:59,110 --> 02:56:56,359 going into this and looking at all of 3393 02:57:01,269 --> 02:56:59,120 the evidence in advance and and talking 3394 02:57:05,559 --> 02:57:01,279 about this and doing some research with 3395 02:57:09,240 --> 02:57:05,569 Scott I wanted to go in completely fresh 3396 02:57:15,429 --> 02:57:09,250 I don't get to see discoveries like this 3397 02:57:19,210 --> 02:57:15,439 just out of the gate with learning 3398 02:57:21,730 --> 02:57:19,220 something fresh and that's what we did 3399 02:57:24,429 --> 02:57:21,740 together tonight it is so much fun 3400 02:57:26,889 --> 02:57:24,439 yeah the Mission San Gabriel the skull 3401 02:57:29,380 --> 02:57:26,899 looks very similar to some of the snaps 3402 02:57:34,389 --> 02:57:29,390 I took their post them David I would 3403 02:57:38,230 --> 02:57:34,399 like to see them so yeah doing this 3404 02:57:41,050 --> 02:57:38,240 right learning together I am this is a 3405 02:57:44,019 --> 02:57:41,060 conversation I would have had with Scott 3406 02:57:46,679 --> 02:57:44,029 if we were alone instead we did it 3407 02:57:49,240 --> 02:57:46,689 together tonight so much fun and 3408 02:57:51,040 --> 02:57:49,250 tomorrow night we will have another 3409 02:57:51,700 --> 02:57:51,050 Fator night with open lines all night 3410 02:57:54,250 --> 02:57:51,710 long 3411 02:57:55,990 --> 02:57:54,260 Thursday night Richard Dolan is gonna be 3412 02:57:58,860 --> 02:57:56,000 here tomorrow night's Richards birthday 3413 02:58:01,300 --> 02:57:58,870 I couldn't hook I couldn't keep Richard 3414 02:58:03,639 --> 02:58:01,310 committed to the show tomorrow and 3415 02:58:06,160 --> 02:58:03,649 hateful and he's got his his birthday 3416 02:58:08,800 --> 02:58:06,170 with his family so tomorrow night is 3417 02:58:11,080 --> 02:58:08,810 Fator night and we will definitely be 3418 02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:11,090 discussing this and a whole lot more 3419 02:58:15,760 --> 02:58:13,010 because it's Fator night with open lines 3420 02:58:19,090 --> 02:58:15,770 all night long with that I am going to 3421 02:58:21,610 --> 02:58:19,100 get out of here and say what a fantastic 3422 02:58:23,790 --> 02:58:21,620 show thank you to Scott Wolter you can 3423 02:58:24,990 --> 02:58:23,800 visit Scott's two websites of course 3424 02:58:29,019 --> 02:58:25,000 hooked 3425 02:58:30,190 --> 02:58:29,029 XCOM and Scott Wolter answers top 3426 02:58:31,990 --> 02:58:30,200 blogspot.com 3427 02:58:34,929 --> 02:58:32,000 both links are over at Jimmy Church 3428 02:58:37,320 --> 02:58:34,939 radio.com paid to Black's executive 3429 02:58:39,510 --> 02:58:37,330 producer it's ritika Murray on 3430 02:58:41,940 --> 02:58:39,520 show us produced by LJ palm Renae 3431 02:58:44,820 --> 02:58:41,950 Dennison Kevin announcers are Steve 3432 02:58:46,889 --> 02:58:44,830 Arthur gene veto a marked eco bar what 3433 02:58:50,520 --> 02:58:46,899 master is drew the geek music doug 3434 02:58:53,070 --> 02:58:50,530 aldrich intro space boys space boy 3435 02:58:57,110 --> 02:58:53,080 music.com fade to black is produced by 3436 02:59:00,780 --> 02:58:57,120 kjsurya that work syndication is kg ra 3437 02:59:03,179 --> 02:59:00,790 the planet podcast on the copyright of 3438 02:59:05,460 --> 02:59:03,189 2025 fade to black in the game changer 3439 02:59:07,650 --> 02:59:05,470 network paint the cannot be rebroadcast 3440 02:59:09,330 --> 02:59:07,660 download a copy Therese anywhere in the 3441 02:59:11,040 --> 02:59:09,340 known universe without written 3442 02:59:12,780 --> 02:59:11,050 permission from fade oblige of the game 3443 02:59:15,300 --> 02:59:12,790 changer Network I'm you know Jimmy 3444 02:59:17,790 --> 02:59:15,310 church tomorrow night is fader night 3445 02:59:19,480 --> 02:59:17,800 open lines all night long until then I 3446 02:59:21,229 --> 02:59:19,490 want everybody to be saved 3447 02:59:23,430 --> 02:59:21,239 [Music] 3448 02:59:43,960 --> 02:59:23,440 go back Lee taffy